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Does Intercourse Is Mandatory Before Valeema

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rite157 Group: Members  Joined: 14th Apr, 2007  Topic: 17  Post: 32  Age:  34  
Posted on:28th Apr 2007, 11:29pm
 

Does Intercourse Is Mandatory Before Valeema

I have a question in my mind for which I want the answer from Kali Zuban. Kali zuban, aap se answer maangne ki 3 wajay hain. 1) Aap k reply bohot logical aur useful hotay hain. 2) Aap ne suhag raat k steps advice kiye hain. 3) Aap ek aurat ki feeolings ko bhi meray khayal se achi tarah bata sakti hain. Ab aatay hain sawaal ki taraf. Pehlay to yeh k jahan tak meri naaqis knowledge hai, to walimay se pehlay sex kerna zaroori nahi hai, lekin masla yeh hai k aap samajhti hain k walimay se pehlay sex kerna zaroori hai, is liye meray sawaal k liye plz farz ker lijiye k walimay se pehlay sex kerna zaroori nahi hai. Ab sawaal yeh hai k agar dulha pehli raat ko sirf achi achi baatein ker k aur dulhan k chehray aur haath per tjori si kiss ker k so jata hai, yaani k dulha aur dulhan dono so jatay hain, aur dulha ne plan kia hoa hai k shadi k 3 ya 4 din baad honeymoon trip per jana hai aur wahin per 1 ya 2 din sath ghoomnay phirnay k baad pehli baar foreplay aur sex kerna hai, wo bhi poora undress ho k. To us ka yeh plan kaisa hai?? Plz aap yeh bhi bataaein k dulhan is doraan, yaani k shadi se le k sex kernay tak jo k taqreeeban 5 ya 6 din ban jayein gay, kuch ghalat to nahi sochay gi dulha k sexual ability k baaray mein. Note: Main yeh sawaal Suhag raat III per bhi post ker sakta tha lekin main ne isl iye nahi kia kyunkay main sirf relevant replies chahta hoon doosray members se, so all members, you are requested to post relevant replies only, & if you don't have reply then plz don't post any useless replies. Reply from Kali zuban will be sufficient for me. Thank you.


Kali Zuban Group: Members  Joined: 19th Sep, 2010  Topic: 30  Post: 1790  Age:  32  
Posted on:29th Apr 2007, 11:15pm
 

sex before walima

1. jis tarah court mai ja kar aik larka aur larki shadi kare tu shadi ho jati hai. lekin is shadi mai aur mazhabi shadi mai farq hai. mazhabi shadi mai nikah, nikah ka khutba, dulhan ka sarparast and wakeel and gawah hota hai.

Bilkul isi tarah sex ke beghair walima se bhi walima ho jata hai lekin mazhabi shadi mai walima se pahle sex zaroori hai. shadi aik mazhabi fareeza hai. lehaza shadi aur os ke rasoomat ko mazhabi andaz mai karna chahia.

Ref of Hadeth about sex before walima
Sayyiduna Anas ibn Malik (Allah be pleased with him) narrates that he was a boy of ten when the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) migrated to Madina. (He added): "My mother and aunts used to urge me to serve the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) regularly, thus I served him for ten years. When the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) passed away, I was twenty years old, and I knew about the order of Hijab more than anyone else, when it was revealed. It was revealed for the first time when the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) had consummated his marriage with Zainab bint Jahsh (Allah be pleased with her). The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) in the morning was a bridegroom, and he invited the people to a banquet. So they came, ate, and then all left except a few who remained with the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) for a long time….. (Sahih al-Bukhari, no. 4871)

Sayyiduna Anas (Allah be pleased with him) said: "The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) consummated his marriage with a woman (Zainab), so he sent me to invite people for a meal." (Sahih al-Bukhari, no. 4875)

The great Hadith master (hafidh), Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani (Allah have mercy on him) states:

"The Hadith of Anas (quoted above) is clear in determining that Walima is considered to be after the consummation of marriage." (Fath al-Bari, 9/199. Also see: I'la al-Sunan, vol. 10, p. 11)

It is stated in al-Fatawa al-Hindiyya:

"The marriage banquet (walima) is a Sunna and there is great reward in it. And it is carried out when the marriage is consummated." (al-Fatawa al-Hindiyya, 5/343)

consumation of marriage: means sex after marriage

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Kali Zuban Group: Members  Joined: 19th Sep, 2010  Topic: 30  Post: 1790  Age:  32  
Posted on:29th Apr 2007, 11:19pm
 

my articles

 

 

 

 

shahzaib_a Group: Members  Joined: 26th Apr, 2007  Topic: 0  Post: 1  Age:  28  
Posted on:29th Apr 2007, 11:37pm
 

oky

but ager koi is trah plane krta hai to koi gunah yah harj b nahin hai
_DaSh!nG_ Group: Members  Joined: 20th Apr, 2007  Topic: 1  Post: 5  Age:  31  
Posted on:29th Apr 2007, 3:57pm
 

Sorry To Kali zuban

Sorry kali zuban ji!!! main nay yeh forums kal hi join keye hain...i m admin of 2 yahOo n software sites but i realized this site to work for a nice n nobel purpose...but something abt ur Responce was ...just ..ahem ahem-=-=-=-so i created a bad mpretion abt u..n really i m admitting my mistake....may b its my st n last post..but i will use to watch these forums whenever i will able to get time for it...n in last Really gOod n nIce tOpic...but i will b mOre thankful if ur all advises will work on my 1st "Suhaaag raat" :d
doctorpk Group: Members  Joined: 19th Sep, 2010  Topic: 25  Post: 590  Age:  45  
Posted on:29th Apr 2007, 6:14pm
 

re: shahzaib_a

No there is no gunah if sex after walima. but it is advise to you do sex before walima.
Mera Sawal Group:   Joined: 01st Jan, 1970  Topic: 12  Post: 236  Age:   
Posted on:15th Sep 2009, 3:04pm
 

mubashrat se qabal walima

walima! larka ki taraf se shaadi ka elan hota hai, mubashrat ke beghair shaadi ka elan be maani hai. lehaza shaadi aur walima mai munasib gap hona chahiye takeh walima se qabal mubashrat ki jaa sake.

isi tarah shaadi date larki ke menses date ke lehaz se rakhni chahiye, aisa na ho keh shaadi ke doran ose menses aa rahe ho, iss tarah majbooran walima mubashrat se qabal kerni pare gi, jo keh mazhabi nuqta nazar se sahi nahi hai.

Waterr Group: Members  Joined: 15th Jul, 2009  Topic: 59  Post: 3783  Age:  30  
Posted on:15th Sep 2009, 3:52pm
 

Okey.. Bt walima is valid even without consummation

Yep its rite its just like fasting without taravi prayerz bt still if such a situatiön is there(menses etc) walima can be done without being gunahgar.. I just said ths as i read a fawta on islamonline löng ago
Seemi Group: Members  Joined: 11th Sep, 2007  Topic: 14  Post: 3812  Age:  31  
Posted on:15th Sep 2009, 5:22pm
 

Walima

Walima is not a mandatory ceremony according to Islam. It is a Sunnah. Agar kisi shaksh ki hasiyat hai to woh apni hasiyat k mutabiq Walima ki dawat kar sakta hai. Agar kisi waja se Walima na kiya ja sakay to koi gunah nahin hai.

Isi tarah, Walima se pehlay ya baad mein intercourse ki koi shart nahin hai. Quraan or Hadees se aisi koi baat sabit nahin hai k Walima se pehlay Interocurse zaroori hai.
persona Group: Members  Joined: 10th Jul, 2008  Topic: 0  Post: 121  Age:  34  
Posted on:15th Sep 2009, 5:54pm
 

Intercourse isn't must before walima-banquet.

I agree with seemi more than kali zuban. Yes intercourse isn't a must before walima-banquet.

 

rafaz Group: Members  Joined: 14th Mar, 2007  Topic: 20  Post: 941  Age:   
Posted on:19th Sep 2009, 10:41pm
 

Valima

Ager kisi nay intercourse nahee bhee kya ha to wo valima ker sakta ha valima k lyee kaheen bhee yee nahee koi shart ha k intercourse ho ga to valima ho ga this is totally wrong concepts in few peoples
valima jaiz hota ha chayee intercourse hoowa ho ya na hoowa ho
zeb Group: Members  Joined: 18th Aug, 2007  Topic: 114  Post: 13598  Age:  36  
Posted on:25th Sep 2009, 7:29am
 

yes

agreed to rafaz

ye sub jhuti bateyn hoti hain

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