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Pornography: How To Get Rid Of This?

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seriously Group: Members  Joined: 12th Dec, 2007  Topic: 24  Post: 313  Age:  61  
Posted on:20th Dec 2007, 7:46pm
 

Pornography: How To Get Rid Of This?

Today I read a letter to editor in online version of a big daily newspaper of Pakistan.  The letter was an appeal to government to take action against the thelay walas around a big electronics market in a big city of Pakistan who are openly selling CD's containing pronographic material.

This letter prompted me to open this thread. My comments and questions to the forum moderators and forum members are as follows.

1. These cart holders are satisfying a demand for this material. There is a demand in the society for pornography these thelay walas realized it and started selling pornography. There are people who are seeking and are willing to buy this material. If there was no demand there will be no supply. Is it that simple ? NO.

YES if we can convert our society to a society composed of people who fear Allah even when no body is watching them then there will be no demand for pornography , right ?

But how can we convert this society to a society of humans who have angel like qualities who fear Alllah and who are all on right path / sarat a mustaqeem ?

I do not know how that is why I am asking.

2. This kind of material has been available in Pakistan. I remember when I was a very young boy one of my female cousins gave me a Urdu novel containing errotic stories to read but I was so scared of my mother , father and older brothers that I refused to take it and read it ( she showed me some parts of it ).  When I was in Matric there were students in school who possed English magazines containing  pornography and they were thrilled to share it with others. The video stores had blue movies but they would not display them openly.  But it was not so open and not so easy to obtain this kind of material in those days. Now what has changed that this material is being sold openly in a big market ?

Please do not blame Musharaf or government or West or any conspiracy against Muslims.  There are some other factors which are at play here . I do not know what ? But I want to know ?

3. There is a legal ban on sale of such kind of material but people are selling it . If government successfully keeps pornographic material from the markets what can stop the society to stay away from this kind of filth ?. If the society demands pornographic material then it will go underground, and ,what can stop people from visiting pornographic websites ? I do not know again I want to know.

I am sorry to write it all in English because it is very hard for me to write it all in roman Urdu , I can read and write some of roman Urdu but not so much. I know the members of Noor Clinic forums are very intelligent they can read all this and understand all this. You are free to translate these comments and questions in roman Urdu if any one of you wants to do so. Everybody is free to post there comments and answers to these questions in roman Urdu.

pinky7861 Group: Members  Joined: 06th Oct, 2007  Topic: 44  Post: 1348  Age:   
Posted on:20th Dec 2007, 9:14pm
 

sir.......

   yr questions have made me think about the problems we are facing in pak.  I will write further inshallah.
ding420 Group: Members  Joined: 30th Nov, 2007  Topic: 3  Post: 39  Age:  52  
Posted on:24th Dec 2007, 1:56am
 

Seriously you are right

Dear Seriously.,

you are quite right, I also saw these vendors selling prono videos openly in that market, they were supported by POLICE, who catch the peoples buying these material instead of catching them, as they are the source of there EXTRA bread & butter.

Our Law enforcing agencies are so un-concious, they only wants to support these CRIMNAL peoples to get money. They support gambling spots, dating spots (Like Guest houses, Hotels & AUNTIES Home).............

If this police dept closed than you will see lots of changes occurs.

 

BeautyStar Group: Members  Joined: 16th May, 2007  Topic: 52  Post: 3584  Age:  31  
Posted on:24th Dec 2007, 1:37pm
 

Awesome Post

As'salam - O - Aluikum ,

Serisouly Bahi first of all you deserve Thanks because I like this topic very very much and it shows true & transparent picture of our Soceity .

RainBow Centre is a Spinal-Cord of these Pornographic Videos (Ground Floor is full of it) .... Everyone knows about it ..... Shop-Keeper are selling it openly @ very low prices Rs.20 to 50 even Semi-Nude & Nude-Stickers are there for Advertisement ..... Police-Men are waiting for the prey because they want Bribe and also they collect their commissions from these shops .... No one is stopping them .... Even Educated-People buy these videos some two-three and some whole bundles ... Old-Customer are offered for Prostitution and some for Artists for one night stand ... Where are we people going ..... don't know !!! Its the only story of Rain-Bow Centre ... I don't know about other areas but Pornographic Vidoes are now available at every Video -Shop even Girsl are willing to buy it . . . We all are speechless.........
seriously Group: Members  Joined: 12th Dec, 2007  Topic: 24  Post: 313  Age:  61  
Posted on:26th Dec 2007, 7:18pm
 

Teen (3) Sawal .

Kuch log merey pheley post ko shaid samajh na sakay hoon lihaza main Roman Urdu main koshish kar raha hoon.( Mera maqsad kisi key angraizee par shak karna naheen hay balka ziada participation hasil karney key koshish hay)

1. Agar Pakistan aik Muslim country hay to iss main gandi filmoon key high demand keeyoon hay ?

2. Pakistan Muslim majority country hay is main itnay bohat behaia look kyoon hain jo gandi filmain khareedtay hain , aur itnay bohat loog gandi filmain sell kartay hain ? Yeh angazoon key sazish naheen hay yeh hamarey apney problem hay.

3. Iss ko kis trah control kia ja sakta hay. Police kay chapay iss lay ilaj naheen hain. Hamara mashrah/ hamari society Islamic society kaisay banai jaa sakti hay. Mera mutlab Talabinization nahee hay balkay aisee society hay jahan TV bhee ho laikin gandagi say pak ho. TV per aisay shows hoon jo kay aik family sath baith kare enjoy kar sakay jaisy kay aaj say 20 saal pahlay tak hota tha.
Is main gandi filmoon(Pornographic movies) kay bajay achi filmoon key demand ho.
Aisee society jehan aurteen offices main kaam karain laikin , nokri hasil karnay kay leeyay ya taraqee karnay kay leeyay unko kapray na utarna parhain ?

BeautyStar Group: Members  Joined: 16th May, 2007  Topic: 52  Post: 3584  Age:  31  
Posted on:27th Dec 2007, 11:06pm
 

Three Answers

1. These cart holders are satisfying a demand for this material. There is a demand in the society for pornography these thelay walas realized it and started selling pornography. There are people who are seeking and are willing to buy this material. If there was no demand there will be no supply. Is it that simple ? NO.
YES if we can convert our society to a society composed of people who fear Allah even when no body is watching them then there will be no demand for pornography , right ?
But how can we convert this society to a society of humans who have angel like qualities who fear Alllah and who are all on right path / sarat a mustaqeem ?
I do not know how that is why I am asking . . . .

Do you know about JB SAY (Economist) according Say's Law :
" Supply Creates its own Demand "

If you realized this theory It is yet 95% applicable on illegal acts (e.g Pornography , Prostitution) despite some drawbakcs of this theory .... It means if the supply is there the demand will ultimately be there .... thats the answer of first part that Supply creates it own Demand.

If we have true fear of ALLAH then we will never watch these types of things and there would be no Demand even if the Supply is Inelastic ...... The main thing is Fear of ALLAH which is the only thing which can keep you away from these things .... Fear of ALLAH and continuous Zikar of ALLAH may be from Down to Dusk ...... thats the solution which seems impracticable now-a-days.

Now third part .... We should try to first make ourself this kind of human-beings ... Infact Revolution comes from Inside what I believe.... So we have to change ourself first of all and then Guide others in the light of our won Experience and true knowledge of Islam and Proper guidance of Quran & Correct Interpretation of Ahadees.


2. This kind of material has been available in Pakistan. I remember when I was a very young boy one of my female cousins gave me a Urdu novel containing errotic stories to read but I was so scared of my mother , father and older brothers that I refused to take it and read it ( she showed me some parts of it ).  When I was in Matric there were students in school who possed English magazines containing  pornography and they were thrilled to share it with others. The video stores had blue movies but they would not display them openly.  But it was not so open and not so easy to obtain this kind of material in those days. Now what has changed that this material is being sold openly in a big market ?
Please do not blame Musharaf or government or West or any conspiracy against Muslims.  There are some other factors which are at play here . I do not know what ? But I want to know ?

Well , When I was in School this kind of things also happened even a boy was caught while Masturbating and you won't believe he was a Hafiz-e-Quran ... All the teachers were shocked specially the teacher whom he considered as Sex-Object for Masturbation ..... Although Management of School tried best to conceal this matter yet many of Students become aware of it .... I don't blame Musharaf and Other because there are some other factors as well .... Rainbow Centre is one of the market of these kinds of Stuffs Millions of CDs are available there .... anyone can easily access the bunch of it ... no restictions at all even a Minor can have it easily ..... Sellers only concern about profilt and thats it .... It is because the Government is unable to provide even the basic needs of Human-Being .... Simpply Poverty ... You can say that Prostitution & Pornography is also bread & butter of some people ..... and It is the flow of Money from Rich person to Poor Person .... People have to take their own desicions of earing bread & butter as Government ignore them. I think Poverty is the major Factor .


3. There is a legal ban on sale of such kind of material but people are selling it . If government successfully keeps pornographic material from the markets what can stop the society to stay away from this kind of filth ?. If the society demands pornographic material then it will go underground, and ,what can stop people from visiting pornographic websites ? I do not know again I want to know.

Again Supply creates its won demand ...... There is a legal ban on selling such things but despite these things it is available at every video shops .... Even the Police-Man put restrcitions under the infulnce of High-Authority even it is avaiable but at high Prices .... No one can stop People from visiting it but it can be reduced if Cable-Net Service Provider takes initiative and ban all the frequently visited Pornographic website ....... I know it can not be eliminated but atleast we can reduce it .

I have these three answers of your three questions ..... I don't know whats others' opinion are .... Lets see ..... ??? I am also waiting for that !




pinky7861 Group: Members  Joined: 06th Oct, 2007  Topic: 44  Post: 1348  Age:   
Posted on:27th Dec 2007, 4:29pm
 

seriously sir

.....iN MY OPINION, we just need a better police system in Pak.  Whatever the reasons are, and whatever the effects are, nothing will change until people are forced to stay in a certain way.  WHY??? because generally, human nature likes all those things which are prohobited in islam and are unacceptable etically and morally as well.  Pakistanis also have a very emotional nature in general, and they are never,,,, and I mean never ever going to LISTEN NICELY AND POLITELY.  we need a good strict teacher as we have gone so wild. 

   therefore, in my opinion, only a very good and solid police system can start creating the change following by a very very good education system.  If somehow, we create this system now in an instant, we will still be seeing the fruit of it in next 25 to30 years.

Bottom line is that we need to be forced to do the good things at least at this point.

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