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Londi In Islam- Slavery And Slave Girls In Islam

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myrizvi Group: Members  Joined: 20th Apr, 2008  Topic: 132  Post: 8372  Age:  58  
Posted on:6th Oct 2009, 2:01am
 

lauNdi say mitalliq mazeed nokaat

Love bird: I have changed title as per ur request

maiN apni above guftagoo ko mazeed aagay baRhata houn... k ooper to sirf aik pahloo hi ki taraf isharah thaa jo maiN nuktah bhi hai

1. dunyaa maiN launDi ho yaa tawaaif... oska dunyawi darjah bay.shak gharelu aurtouN say "kam.tar" samjha jata hai... magar Allah k nazdeeq aisaa hona zaroori nahi... agar koi laRki zabardasti tawaaif /launDi banayee gayee to aisaa karnay wala 'mujrim' hai. yeh agar dil say apni 'job/status' pay satisfy nah ho, basic imaan bhi rakhti ho aur jahaaN jahaaN moqah milay Allah ko yaad bhi rakhay to yaqeenan aisee tawaifaiN /launDiyaaN Allah k nazdeeq deger muslimaat o mominaat say kissi bhi darjah maiN kam nahi hongii insha Allah.

(cont...)

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Posted on:6th Oct 2009, 2:50am
 

jub mujy ek non muslim ny khaa

bury afsoos ki bat hy k ek non muslim ko en bato ka puta hy or ek muslim ko etni imp bato ka elm ni hy.

abi meh londi k musla py bat kurta ho

1400 sal phally women or men khureeday or bachy jaty ty or khuch log tu khandaani tor py golaam or londi hoty ty so jo women hoti thi on ko londi kehty ty or on ko khureda or bachaa jata ta

golaam b khureedy or bachy jaty ty ye tu islam or Quran ki waja sy golamo or londiyoo k Huqook wuza hoy or islam ny golaami or londiyoo k hukok wuza keye or es k sath sath ghulami waly system ko na pusand b furmaya so islam golami or londi waly system k khilaf hy ha abi b londi wala hokam jo Allah ny Quran meh btaya k jo women tomary qubzy meh ajayin tu on sy fayda otha sukty ho ......... agur dobara jahaad meh esi koi sorathaal ati hy tu muslim again non muslim womens ko londi bna sukty hen mugar abi international laws hen so sub momalik es k pabund hen

ek londi ki dosri sorat b thi k jung k doraan jo women muslimano k kubzy meh ati thi on ko Qadi ni bunaty ty onko muslimano meh tukseem kur daty ty or shadi shoda hony k ba wajood on sy intercourse kuny ki islam or Quran meh permission d ghi

ku k os time ko international laws esy tu ty ni k qadiyoo k bary meh ko etna intazam hota so en womens ko muslimano meh tukseem kur deya jata ta es tura ek tu wo muslimano k kam b kurti thi or on ko tahufaz b milta ta os mohashiry meh intishaar or fusaad b ni phylta ta

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Posted on:6th Oct 2009, 3:31am
 

lauNdi say mitalliq mazeed nokaat

2. launDi ko sahibay hasiyay males hi nahi balkay sahibay hasiyat females bhi khareek kar onhain as taa.hayaat molaaznah /naukraani banaa sakti haiN aur apni lauNdi ki kissi bhi ghulaam /azaad mard k saath shadi bhi karwasakti haiN. launDi shadi shudah hotay howay bhi apni maalikha ki paband /molaazim hogi.

3.islam nah sirf azaad mar o aurat ko ghulaam /baandi banaanay ka mokhaalif hai (aisaa karnay walay k liyeh sakht azaab ki waeed hai) balkay woh "maalikouN" ko encourage kartaa hai k khareeday howay ghulaam /baandi ko azaad karay.... issi gharz say bahoot say gonaahoun k kaffarah maiN ghulaam aur launDi ko azaad karna bhi shamil kia gayaa hai.

4. zaid bin haaris RA hazoor salallaho alihay wasallam k azaad kardah ghulaam thay... jab ap salallaho alihay wasallam  nay onhaiN azaad kardia to onkay waledain onhain lenay aa gaye hai. lekin zaid bin haaris RA nay parents k saath janaa pasand nahi kia... aur woh badsatoor hazoor salallaho alihay wasallam  k saath rahtay rahay. aap salallaho alihay wasallam  nay onki shadi bhi karaayee...... goyaa agar maalik chaahay to launDi /ghulaam ko azaad karkay onki shadi bhi karaa sakta hai... yeh sab EHSAAN k darjay maiN aataa hai jissay ISLAM encourage karta hai.... qanoonan woh aisaa karnay ka paband nahi.

5. bahoot say log aaj laa.ilmi /ghalat fahmi islami taleemaat par "sharam.saari" k sabab ghulaami k islamic QAWANEEN ka maazi main to etraaf kartay hain magar woh yeh kahtay hain k ab chouNkay ghulaami ka rewaaj khataam hogaya hai lehazaa aj ISLAM maiN aisa nahi hai aur koi muslim launDi nahi rakh saktaa...... woh quran o sunnat yaa aj.maa.e.ummat say aisaa koi hawalah bhi nahi day skatay k falaaN tareekh say islam maiN ghulami k qawaneen mansookh hogayee haiN...... woh maghribi literature /media say motassir hokar yeh bhi kahtay haiN k aj women ki khareed o faraokh hi nahi hoti to launDi ka concept autometically khataam hogayaa...

aisay log yaa to JAAHIL haiN yaa onhaiN nazar hi nahi aataa k aaj bhi dunyaa bhar main (including pakistan) aurtouN /laRkiyouN ki bilkhasoos khareed o faraokht hoti hai. koThouN par new tawaifain aakhir kahaaN say aati haiN... onhaiN kaun 'supply" karta hai. kia free main supply karta hai....... kashmir k zalzalay k baad in "suppliers" nay wahaaN say bichaRnay wali bachiyaaN kaseer tadaad main koThouN ko supply keeN... bahoot say supplier pakray bhi gayee...... bay.gaar camps main kia hotaa hai ... wahaN "man-power" ko burdah farosh.... laRkouN ko aghwaa karkay farokht kartay hain... jinhaiN baar baar aagay faraokht bhi kia jata hai....... ... edit ....

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Posted on:6th Oct 2009, 6:38am
 

Student kay notice.....1

Abb tak ki discussion mein Waseem08,Kali Zuban,My Rizvi oar Dr.Qasim oar Azfar nay hissa lia .App sab dostoo ka bohat shukeria .

 

Meri hasiat iss thread mein aik student si hai oar mein iss kay start mein apni kum ilmi ka izhar ker chukka hoon magar iss discussion per mazeed sawalat ka haq abhi meray pass baqi hai.

 

Aik achay student ki tarah mein nay apnay pochay gahay pehlay swal (Londi) k answer k lihay notice jo tyar kihay hain iss kay lihay mujjay app sab ki posts ko kahee baar parahna parah oar jo mujjay aim batain milli wo yea hain..abb app nay patina keh yea notice sahee hain ya kohee baat miss hogahee hai.

 

BASIC CONCEPT:

 

      Sirf jang main pakree gayee aurtain hi laundi banaaye jasakti hain.

 

      Islam aik azaad ko pakar kar ghulaam bananay ka mokhaalif hai. yeh bahoot bara gonaah hai...

 

(Ref.post name 2 qism ki ourtain paragraph # 6 by My Rizvi)

 

 

 

Londi kay Haqooq:

      Laundi, biwi k martabah par to nahi hoti magar ossay deger tamaam haqooq hasil hotay hain.

      Woh sirf aik mard k pass rahti hai.

      Oska naan.nufqah, oskay maalik k zimmah hota hai like biwi...

      Oski aulaad malik ki legal aulaad hoti hai

      Aur biwi ki aulaad aur laundi ki aulaad main koi faraq nahi hotaa

      Dounoun ko meeraas milti hai. Kissi ka darjah bhi kam nahi hotaa...

      Islam main ghulaam au laundiyoun k jo haqooq hain onko study karain to hairaani hoti hai.

(Ref.post name 2 qism ki ourtain paragraph # 5 by My Rizvi)

love bird Group: Members  Joined: 06th Nov, 2008  Topic: 73  Post: 1177  Age:  41  
Posted on:6th Oct 2009, 6:50am
 

Theory of conversion of Prositute to Slave

Thoery of Conversion of prositute to slave

 

Dunyea ki her society mein oar her doar mein kuch oaratain aisi hoti hain jin ka shumar shorfa mein naheen hota in ko kaheen sex worker kaha jata hai tou kaheen prostitute tou kaheen call girls.Dunyea ki taqreeban all most her society mein in ko izzat ki nighah say naheen daikha jata ,loaqoon ki aksariat inn say nafrat kerti hai oar in ki hasiat aik public property si hoti oar kohee bhee sharif admi in say shadi naheen kerta.

 

Islam ourat ki public propert honay ghilaf oar yea samjhta hai keh yea orat ki toheeen hai

agar pak yaa muslim society main asmat faroshi k addoun par maujood tamaam "ghair-mohsenaat" ko yeh doosra option dia jaa.ay k kia woh badastoor "public-property" banaa rahna chaahti hain yaa kissi saahibay hasiyat mulim ki laundi ban kar onkay haram main rahna pasand karengi jahaan onhain tamaam bunyaadi haqooq milengay, jahaan onki aulaad ko qanooni hasiyat milegi. Jahaan onhain wohi khelaya pilaya pahnaya jayegaa jo onka maalik khataa peeta aur pahanta hai (as per islam)... Albattah woh maalik ki biwi k darjah k barabar nahi hogi yaani mankooha nahi hogi balkay onka status laundi ka hogaa to .............. Zara insaaf say batlaaiyyeh k kaun aisee "bazaari aurat" hogi jo yeh option ko qabool nah karegi.

Yehni agar Sahib hasiat oar maldar/Nawab loaq in ko apni londian bana lain tou yea mashala intahee khoubi say solaj sakta hai.

 (Ref.post name 2 qism ki ourtain  by My Rizvi,Kali Zuban and Waseem 08)

 

 

 

STUDENT K AY TAHAFOZAT

 

Sir ager cheh daikhnay mein app ki theory dill ko bhati hai magar is Thoery per meray kahee tahoffozat hain ager app sahiban in ko clear ker dain tou mein bhee app ka garveedah hojahoonga

1-App nay hee Mujjay batea hai keh Sirf Jang mein pakri hohee ouratain hee londia ban sakti hainTou Sir kia app mujjay batana pasand karain gay keh bazaar e Hossan mein baithi hohee prostitutes kiss jang mein pakri gahee theen jo app oan ko londihoon mein convert kernay ki purkishish offer kerwa rahay hain?

 

Agar woo londian ki tareef per pori hee naheen utrati tou agar kohee shaks Londi ki khoud  sakhtah definition bana day tou meri nazar mein woo Zana kay fehl ka mortakib hoga khaw oas ki neet kitni hee q na achi ho. Q keh Neet achi ho tou woo oas say shadi bhee ker sakta hai ya oas ki maddad bhee ker sakta hai.

 

Yea mamlah intahee nazik sa hota hai, jab aik shohar apni B.V kay sath humbistari kerta hai tou oas ko sawab milta hai magar wo yahee amal apni BV ya londi kay siwa kerta hai tou Zina kerta hai jo keh Gunnah e Kabeera Hai.

 

Agar kohee shaks kissi ourat kay sath rehta hai oas k sarray haqooq poray kerta hai hatakeh oas ka bachoon ka bapp ban jata hai magar woo ourat oas waqat tak oas ki BV naheen keh saktay jab tak oas ka nikkah na hooTab woo BV ki definition per pora utrati hai.

 

Issi tarah ki aik galt fehmi loaqoon mein yea bhee hai keh Ghar mein kaam kernay wali ouratain oan ki kaneezain /londian hain lol oar woo oan ko londian samjh ker oan say humbistari tak ker laitay hain meri nazar mein wo bhee Zina jaisay kabhee fehal kertay hain is ski wajha bhee wohee hai keh woo londian ki tareef per pora naheen utrati.

 

Akhir mein app ko yea bata doon keh yea theory app ki naheen balkeh kissi darbari mullah ki hai jo badshahoo ko apni ayashi ka saman pora kernay k lihay yea jawaz paish kertay thay issi lihay on kay harm mein oan kay apnay molk ki tawafain oar kahee larkian oan ki londian ban ker rehti theen hatakeh OrangZeb jaisa mazhabi badshah ki bhii aik aisi he kaneez per dill agia tha..

 

Tou yea nawaboon jagirdaroon sarmeadaroon ki eyashi ka mazhabi jawaz bannay wali theory hai.

 

 

Aap sab kay reply ka montazir.

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Posted on:6th Oct 2009, 7:58am
 

love bird

mmmuuuuuuuaaaahhhhhhhhh

very very gud jaanuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

love bird Group: Members  Joined: 06th Nov, 2008  Topic: 73  Post: 1177  Age:  41  
Posted on:6th Oct 2009, 8:23am
 

Zeb!!!!

Thanks !!!!

Abhi meri class horahee hai ......Mazeed baat "hum say milla karoo" mein hogi !!!

ok sweet 13 mera 7 rahay

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Posted on:6th Oct 2009, 8:26am
 

"lauNdi" ban.nay ka aghaaz

1. islam maiN "azaad" /mohsenaat aurtouN ko "launDiyaaN banaanay" ka (conversion of mohsenaat to launDi) sirf aik qanooni /sharayee zaabitah hai aur woh yeh k jo aurtaiN jehaad maiN muslims k haathouN pakRee jayaiN... aur jinhaiN baad az jang fidyah yaa qaidiyouN k tabaadlay maiN wapis nah kia jasakay.... onhaiN ameeray jehaad /ameerul-momeneen k hukmpar mujaahedeen maiN (maalay ghaneemat ki tarah) taqseem kardia jata hai......... iskay elawah kissi "muslim" ko yeh "allowed" nahi k woh aisaa karay............. aur agar koi muslim aisaa karay to yeh sakh ginaah aur qaabilay sazaa hai.

2. farz kia aik "muslim" gonaah k bawajood aisaa karta hai yaani ... azaad aurtouN ko aghwaa karkay agay farokht kardeta hai... .... qatah nazar k woh pakRaa jaa.ay aur sazaa paa.ay....... yaa pakra hi nah jaa.ay aur yeh ghanounaa karobaar karta rahay (jaisay aj kal k burdah farosh police aur deger hukkam ki madad say yaa onki aankhouN maiN dhool jhonk kar aisaa kartay haiN........ to kia "bechi gayee aurtaiN".... market maiN nahi pahonch jaateeN..... ab iss qism ki aurtaiN agar parents tak wapis nah pahonchaiN... aur parents onhaiN accept nah karlaiN ... ti kia aDDouN par maujood honay k sabab yeh phir bhi "mohsenaat" hi rahengeeN???? kia inka status "azaad aur baa.asmat" aurtouN hi tarah ka rahegaa... hargiz nahi

3. farz kia k yeh amal (aghwa karkay farokht karnaa ... muslims nahi kartay... to kia non-muslim bhi nahi karengay k islam maiN aisaa karna manaa hai.... hosakta hai k aik "islamic reyasat" maiN non-muslim aisaa nah karaIn... lekin iss say bahar onhaiN aisaa karnay say kaun rok sakaa hai???? world known history oThaa kar dekh laiN... har daur maiN ... aur aaj bhi... dunyaa k tamaam insaani haqooq k (so called) champions momaalik maiN bhi fahashi k aDDouN par aurtaiN khareedi jati haiN... khaah woh 'locally' suplly ki jati houn yaa ghareeb momaalik say 'export ki jaati houN...

4. above step-2/3 k tehat yeh kaam 'mosalsal' horaha hai.... shaitaani agent aisaa kartay rahengay k azaad aurtouN (aur mardouN) ko bhi ghulaam /launDi (naam kuch bhi rakh laiN) banatay rahengay...... dunyaa main jahaaN aheeN bhi aur jab kabhi islami reyasat qaaim hogi to woh apnay hadood maiN "aurat ka yeh istehsaal bardaasht nahi karegi aur inn (alredy sold) "ghair mohsenaat ko aik shelter /chat faraham karnay k liyeh ... onhaiN "sharayee launDi" k taur par zindagi guzaarnay ka nisbatan behtar (tawaaif, sex worker, call girls ki nisbat) raastah faraaham karti rahegi ..... istahsaali quwwatouN say aisee aurtoun ko nijaat dilanay ka koi aur raastah hai hi nahi k inkay maujdah "maalikaan" say inhaiN khareed lia jaa.ay... phir chaahay lauNdi banaakar apnay haram main rakhaa jaa.ay yaa azaad karkay onhaiN dobarah azaad shahri banaa dia jaa.ay.

5. "islamic launDism" k mokhaalif meray dostoun k pass agar existing "sex-workers" k liyeh koi aur alternative aur practical idea /theory maujood hai to woh pesh karaiN...... mera challengae hai k Allah k diyeh gayee raastay say behtar aur koi tareeqah ho hi nahi saktaa...... quran maiN "jangi aurtoun ko launDi" nahi kahaa gayaa ... balkay "jinhain tum apnay haathouN say haasil karo" kahaa hai jiski tafseer maiN jagi qaidee aurtaiN bhi aati hain aur "open market maiN already bechi jarahi" aurtaiN bhi shamil hain jinhaiN koi bhi (ghanTouN, maheenouN or for ever) k liyeh khareed sakta hai

 

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Posted on:6th Oct 2009, 8:33am
 

Islam Vs maujoodah istehsaali nizaam

maujoodah istahsaali nizaam maiN tawaifouN ka business roz baroz taraqqi karta chalaa jaraha hai ... bahoot sya momaalik maiN yeh business "legal" hai... yeh pesha war khawateen baqaaidah tax pay kartihaiN aur onhaiN intezami tahaffuz haasil hota hai...... hatta k muslim momaalik k agent-hukmraan bhi apnay bairooni aaqaa'ouN ki hedayat par apnay apnay momaalik ki sex-workers ko apna business chalanay aur farogh denay k liyeh assistance provide kartay haiN.............. koi "raushan khayaal" kabhi bhi iss peshay k khilaaf nahi boltaa aur inn majboor o bay aksa aurtouN ko iss ganday dhanday say nikaalnay ki koi 'musbat koshish nahi kartaa"....... pakistan main sirf aur sirf gen zia ki fauji hakoomat main aisee aik koshihs ki gayee thee jissay pakistani establishment /police  nay  milkar iss tarah NAKAAM banaa dia k morawwajah koThouN ki jagah baray baRay bangalows main yehi kaarobaar establishment k sarparastoun ki nigraani main chalnay lagaa.... tab say aaj tak pak main yeh dhandah dounouN jagah ... baRi baRi koThiyouN uar bazaaray husn maiN 'kaamyaabi' say chal rahaa hai......
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Posted on:6th Oct 2009, 10:17am
 

londi and sex worker

agreed with my rizvi
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Posted on:6th Oct 2009, 10:53am
 

Jism Faroshi kaisay kattam hogi!!

Meray fazil dost keh nazdeek jism faroshi ko sirf Tawaifoon ko londian bana ker hi kia jasakta hai oar iss per in ka israr hai keh yea Allah Tahalah ka dia hoa rasta hai....Meray fazil dost ka yea bhee israr hai keh tawahafoon ki akseriat majboor oar ghurbat ka hathoon is karoobar ka hissa banti hain balla subbah yea baat kissi had tak sahee hai magar ab iss paishay nay showbiz oar media ka tafail in ka image yea bana dia hai keh jitan paisa inn ka pass hai shahid hee kissi kay pass hoo in ko mahashi tahofiz ki fikkar tou naheen hoti magar socity mein in ki izzat bhee kohee khas nahee hoti magar yea apni marzi say shahid londi bhee nay banay oar yonn society mein londian bhee apni jagah qahim rahay gi oar onchay level ki tawafain bhee....Odher say omra/nawab/jagirdar londihoon say mostafeed hongay oar tawaifoon say say bhee salam dua rahay gi haan gharib aadmi ki ponch mein ye dono naheen hongi oar woo iss Gunnah say bach jahain gay .

Iss kia yea Hal naheen !!!

Iss ka hal humain Hazrat e Omer Raz allaho tahalah ki good goverence say milta hai...Hazrat e Omer lakhoon marobah meeloon per paily saltanat mein aisay social crime ki sharah intahee kam thi .

Hazrat e Omer Razalloho Tahalah ko dunyea kay behtereen hukmaranoo mein shumar kia jata hai hatakeh Europe mein bhee in per research horahee hain oar oan say hukmarani kay assool lay rahay hain......

App kay hakoomat kay doar mein  3 asool thay jiss ki wajah say her kissm kay social crime khattam hogahay thay

1- Educate The People

2-Facilitate The People

3-Then Punishment

So agaer hum apnay molk say jism faroshi ko khattam kerna chahtay tou pehlay humain loaqoon ko educate kerna hoga phir humain in ko facilitate kerna hoga her shaks ko khush hall kerna hoga...oar phir jab loaq educate hooon oar awareness ho oar on ko kohee mohashi problem bhee na hoo tab agar woo jism faroshi karay tou oas ko ebrat naak saza di jahay.......

 

 

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Posted on:7th Oct 2009, 4:18am
 

Jazak Allah love bird

bahoot khoob.soorat reply kia hai apnay... apnay jo hull pesh kai hai, maiN kia har shakhs oss say muttafiq hogaa. i do agree wid you k yehi natural /islamic tareeqah hai, society say asmat faroshi khatam karnay kaa.

lekin

zeray bahas topic "islam aur lauNdi" hai... can guide us k kia hazrat omer RA k dauray khilafat maiN "lauNdi ka wajood" nahi thaa aur "launDi rakhnaa" HARAM qarar dia gaya thaa....... yaa kia ab quran o sunnat aj.maa.e.ummat ki roo say "launDi rakhnaa haraam hai" ...... jab tak kisis mulk maiN mokammal islami nizaam bazaryah ...1- Educate The People...2-Facilitate The People...3-Then Punishment..... naafiz hokar asmat faroshi ka business bilkul khatam nah hojaa.ay tab tak....

1. asmat faroshi ka karobaar youN hi phalnay phoolnay dia jaaye .. yaa

2. saath saath "launDism" ko bhi legal (mulki qanoon maiN... shariyat main to already legal hai) kardia jaa.ay... takay a) iss waqt jo AYYASH MARD koThay par jaakar zinaa jaisaa gunaah kartay hain woh iss say bach sakaiN b) jo tawaifaiN apnay gunaah.alood zindagi ko choRna chahaiN, woh 'khud.mukhtaar' houN to khud yaa phir apnay maalikuoun say kah kar kissi ki "sharayee launDi" ban kar gunaah say bach jayaiN... inkay maujoodah maalikaan ko bhi iss main ki etraaz nah hoga agar onhaiN mouNh maangi qeemat mil jaa.ay...... abhi bhi to woh onsay paisay hi kamaa rahay haiN.

islam ... batadreej... ka qaail hai.... jaisay agar maiN bahoot say gi=unaahouN main mobtaalaa houn aur koi naik naam nahee kartaa to kia mujhay kissi aik naik naam karnay k liyeh pahlay yeh intezaar karna hogaa k saray gonaah choR douN phir naik kaam ka aghaaz karoun .... yaa jetna jetna naik kaam start kar saktaa houN karta jayouN aur batad reej naiki main aagay baRhtaa jayouN... aut=r saath saath gonaah chortaa chalaa jayoun.... ideal position kabhi direct aasman say naafiz nahi hoti.... koi aisaa din /lamha nahi aasakta jab maiN saray gonaah choR kar sari naikiyaan start kardouN........

jab aik inferadi zindagi main aisa koi moR nahi to reyasti zindagi maiN kaisay mumkin hai.... borayee ko khatam karnay ka AGHAAZ karnay say roknaa k jab tak hum pahlay poora islami nizaam nafiz nah karlaiN... boRayee ko isi tarah chalany do... koi durust hikmatay amali nahi.

wallaho aalam bissawab

love bird Group: Members  Joined: 06th Nov, 2008  Topic: 73  Post: 1177  Age:  41  
Posted on:7th Oct 2009, 6:40am
 

Let us Agree on Disagree !!!

Humari behs is kadar taveel hogahee hai keh Moderator ko phir say is Thread ka nam change kerna parah gia oar iss baar muujay woo haq bajanib laqa !!!

Sir Mein aik cheez app ko clear ker doon keh mein Islam mein londi kay concept ko sirf ossi tanazar mein manta hoon jiss ki difinition app nay apni post" 2 qism ki ouratain"mein ki hai keh sirf Jang mein pakri hohee ouratain hee londi ban sakti hain .Islam kissi bhee azad ko pakkar ker ghulam/londi bananay  k ghilaf hai"agli kissi post mein app kehtay yahan iss murrad open market say bhee kharidi hohee ouratain bhee li hai.

Mein yea kehta hoon keh open market ya kissi say bhee jo ourat kharidi jati thi woo kissi waqat mein jangoon mein hee pakri gahee hoti thee tab he woo londi ban sakti hai waqaerna naheen.

App ki theory say tou yea sabit hojahay ga keh muslman oan loaqoon ko encourage kertay hain jo azad loaqoon ko pakker ker baichtay hain oan kay khairdar muslman oan ki products ko hathoon hath lain gay oar oan ka karoobar apnay arooj per challah jahay ga insani smugglers kay jehaz jab pakray jahain gay oar oan say pocha jahay ga keh in ki kharidar koun hain yea assignment kahan jarahee haioar naam aahay ga kissi islami dost molk ka tou sochiay humari dunyea mein kitni izzat hogi..so sorry sir. islam oar muslman ka image iss say kitna badnam hongay iss ka shahid app ko andaza hee naheen

Bazar e hossan say tawahaifoon ko londian banany ko islamic naheen samjhta oar jo loaq yea samjhtay keh kohee majboor gharib ourat iss bazar mein agahee hai tou woo iss ki mahashi/ikhlaqi maddad karain oar hosakay tou Allah ki Raza ki khatir oas sa Shadi bhee karain.Q keh Londi kay baishumar haqooq k bawajood oas ka malik jab chahay oas ko kissi ka hath baich sakta hai jaisay woo apnay oas movaishi ko bawaqt e zaroot baich daita hai jab oas ko paisoon ki zaroorat ho ya movaishi baimar hojahay ya oas kay kam ka na hoo.

Mera sab say barah aitraz yea hai keh jo cheez hai naheen app oas ko bawakt e Zarrorat woo bannay peh tullay hohay hain yehni app gadhay per mokhtalif clours ker k oas ko zebra manwana chahtay hain.

Yea aisay hee hai keh Agar muslmanoo mein bhee ikhlaqi berawari is kaddar barah jahay jaisay europe mein hai keh couple baghair shadi keh rehtay hain oar bachay paida kertay hain ,sath rehtay hain apnay haqooq poray kertay hain magar leagally shadi shuda naheen hotay tou in hallat mein kohee is ka yea hal nikalay keh choon keh yea tamam batain/haqooq/oar bachay yea sabit kertay hain keh yea shadi shuda hain isss lihay mazhabi toar per bhee inn ki shadi jahiz hai oar islamic hai oar nikkah ki zaroorat naheen !!!! Tou meray fazil dost mein iss ki hamayat naheen karoonga mein oan kay nikah kay bina oan ki shadi ko mazhabi toar per accept naheen ker sakta.

App apnay mohaqaf per rahain oar hum apnay mohaqaf per Let us agree on Disagree.

Abb choon keh her reply k baad oas reply per discussion say behs apni tawalat ko choo rahee hai oar forum kay dosray members bhee humhain lift naheen krarahay tou oan ko mazeed boriat say bachanay k lihay mein apni tarf say iss discussion ko close ker raha hoon laikin baqi dost ager chahain tou wellcome....Meri koshish hogi keh abb mein apnay next questions ko zer e behs lahoon

Iss kay sath mein yea zaroori samjhtah hoon keh iss taweel behs mein ager meri kissi baat say app ki ya app kay maslk/mazhab ki dill azari hohee tou mein app say dill say maafi ka talbgaar hoon .

 

wasalamm

myrizvi Group: Members  Joined: 20th Apr, 2008  Topic: 132  Post: 8372  Age:  58  
Posted on:7th Oct 2009, 7:57am
 

ilmi bahas maiN naaraazgi???

aisi koi baat nahi love bird... apnay apna mauqof /soch bayaan kardia aur maiN nay apni... inhi ikhtlaafi baha s k baaes bahoot say goshay raushan howay aur yaqeenan hum sab nay iss bahas say bahoot kuch seekha hoga. apka shukarya k apnay iss aham topic par bahas start ki... thanx n jazak Allah
love bird Group: Members  Joined: 06th Nov, 2008  Topic: 73  Post: 1177  Age:  41  
Posted on:7th Oct 2009, 9:03am
 

My Rizvi

App ka bhee bohat shukeria jo app nay iss thread mein barphoor andaz mein share kia !!!

Ilmi behsoon mein waqahee ikhtalafi batain tou hoti hain magar narazgi naheen hoti magar baaz oqaat jazbaat kohee aisi baat hojati jiss ko samnay ka fareeq bohat personnal laijatta hai.

Meri koshish hoti hai meray ilfaz ka chunahoo aisa ho keh woo samnay walahay fareeq ki dilazari ka sabab na bany magar apnay ilfaz ki tangi daman ka ihsas bhee hai oar yea bhee aik haqeeqat hai keh raqim ul haroof kohee adab ka writter naheen balkeh aik student hai .

iss lihay discussion kay end per mazrat ker laita hoon .

Once again Thanks

 

 

 

AhmadSami Group: Members  Joined: 04th Mar, 2017  Topic: 0  Post: 5  Age:  19  
Posted on:4th Mar 2017, 4:28pm
 

issue "Laundi"

Asalam o Alikum.
Muhtram main ne aj hi join kia ha balkah jab main na "Laundi" par behs o mubhasa dekha to socha keh apne khiyalat bhi likh dalo...
Muhtraam Na main Aaleem hon na hi fiqah o fatwa k bary main ziyada janta ho isi lia parhne walo se iltimas ha k meri bat sirf aik zati soch ka natija ha isi lia is ko kisi hawala main na liya jaye...(shukriya)...
  • sb se peh le to main yeh clear krta chalo ka aik nukar aur ghulam main kia fariq ha mere mutabik. aik to jin ko hum mahana pay dete hain aur on ki time limt hoti ha maslan(9am-5pm).
  • jab keh ik ghulam hote hain jin ko ap aik to khreed te ya jung main maal e ghanemat main hasil karty hain. or bhi kafi trha se inko hasil kia jata ha. un ki pay bhi hoti hai magar wo ap k liya 24hour k lia hote hain.
  • islam main or us waqt k muashre main ghulam ka faraq yeh tha keh khareedte ya bhut se dosry mamlat main un ki raye sirf islam main li jati thi jab keh us muashre main ghulam ki koi raye nhi hote thi
  • isi trha laundi bhi ayse hi ha keh mubashret main laundi ki marzi shamil hona lazmi hogi... jb keh ayse waqiyat bhi hain k laundio ka nikah dosra ghulam sa krwa diaya jata tha is main bhi laundi ki marzi ka shamil hona lazim ho ga...
  • aur humbistri ki ijazat is lia ha k aik ghulam/laundi apne malik ka paband hota ha aur hota to insan ha. khwaish insan ki fitrat hai....
  • aik bhi na gangstar wala hawala diya hai k wo bhi jism faroshi karte hai
AhmadSami Group: Members  Joined: 04th Mar, 2017  Topic: 0  Post: 5  Age:  19  
Posted on:4th Mar 2017, 4:29pm
 

issue "Laundi"

Asalam o Alikum.
Muhtram main ne aj hi join kia ha balkah jab main na "Laundi" par behs o mubhasa dekha to socha keh apne khiyalat bhi likh dalo...
Muhtraam Na main Aaleem hon na hi fiqah o fatwa k bary main ziyada janta ho isi lia parhne walo se iltimas ha k meri bat sirf aik zati soch ka natija ha isi lia is ko kisi hawala main na liya jaye...(shukriya)...
  • sb se peh le to main yeh clear krta chalo ka aik nukar aur ghulam main kia fariq ha mere mutabik. aik to jin ko hum mahana pay dete hain aur on ki time limt hoti ha maslan(9am-5pm).
  • jab keh ik ghulam hote hain jin ko ap aik to khreed te ya jung main maal e ghanemat main hasil karty hain. or bhi kafi trha se inko hasil kia jata ha. un ki pay bhi hoti hai magar wo ap k liya 24hour k lia hote hain.
  • islam main or us waqt k muashre main ghulam ka faraq yeh tha keh khareedte ya bhut se dosry mamlat main un ki raye sirf islam main li jati thi jab keh us muashre main ghulam ki koi raye nhi hote thi
  • isi trha laundi bhi ayse hi ha keh mubashret main laundi ki marzi shamil hona lazmi hogi... jb keh ayse waqiyat bhi hain k laundio ka nikah dosra ghulam sa krwa diaya jata tha is main bhi laundi ki marzi ka shamil hona lazim ho ga...
  • aur humbistri ki ijazat is lia ha k aik ghulam/laundi apne malik ka paband hota ha aur hota to insan ha. khwaish insan ki fitrat hai....
  • aik bhi na gangstar wala hawala diya hai k wo bhi jism faroshi karte hai
AhmadSami Group: Members  Joined: 04th Mar, 2017  Topic: 0  Post: 5  Age:  19  
Posted on:4th Mar 2017, 4:32pm
 

issue "Laundi"/Gangster

  • aik bhi na gangstar wala hawala diya hai k wo bhi jism faroshi karte hai to us main do batain hain aik to eh ke is aurat ko pa nhi karte aur dosra yeh sab un khawateen ki marzi k khilaf hota hai... zabardasti or zabar dasti islam main manna hai....
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