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Jinnat or Iblees: Historical View

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chaman0078 Group: Members  Joined: 26th Jan, 2009  Topic: 31  Post: 192  Age:  29  
Posted on:22nd Jun 2009, 4:54pm
 

Jinnat or Iblees: Historical View

Jinnat or Ablees Historical View

Tamam Islami firqay mutfiq hain ka Harazt Adem A.S ki paidayesh takreban Sawaso Bers pehly Allah Talla nay Jinnat ko Zameen per Abad kia, or jab Jinnat ki nasel Zameen per bohat ho gaee, or jaga na rahi to kuch ko Hawa main Jaga Atta fermayee or kuch pehlay Asman per rehly lagay. Or in main Ablees bhi tha.

Waheb bin Manba ki Taveel rewayet ka aik Hisa ye ha:

""Jinnat ki Afzayseh nasel ka ye alam tha k aik hamel say aik larka or aik larki paida hotay, Or jab in ki tadad 70 Hazar gai or bia shadi k silsila jari raha to in k olad ka koi hisab-o-kitab na raha.  Ablees nay bhi Bano-Aljan ki aik larki say shadi ker li, or is k bad bohat say oalad paida hoee. Or Jan ki nasel k rahnay k liay duniya main jaga na rahi, or Jan or is ki olad ko Pehlay Asman per rehny ko jaga di gaee. Or in dono ko apni Ibadet or ataet ka hokum dia,

Zameen per Danga Fasad Ka Aghaz:

Arsa-Daraz tak Asman per rahtay rehaty Jin ghabra gay or Allah talla say zameen per rehly ki darkhwast ki, or Allah talla nay in ko Ijazet do, or ye ahel lia, ko wo zameen per ja ker Ibadet say Ghafel nieh hoon ga,  per Shatan apni herkatoon say kab baz anay walay thay pher in sab nay zamen itna tofaan machaya k Zameen nay pana mang lee, is per Asman waloon nay Zameen per anay ki Darkhwast ki.

Jinnat main Nabi:

Allah talla nay in ki Islah k liay in hi main say yani Jinnat main say Nabi bhajay, Jin ko in zalamoon nay Shaheed ker dia, Kab Ahbaer fermatay hain k, jinnat main sab say pehly jo Nabi aya Un ka namt Amer bin Amair bin Al-Jaan tha. In k bad Saeq bin Maeq bin Marid bin Al-jaan ayay or in ko bahi shaheed ker dia gia.

Next Coming soon

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Posted on:23rd Jun 2009, 1:59am
 

chaman

very nice sharing...thanx
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chaman bhai

bahoot khoob ... by day way agar aap story k saath saath iska 'original source' bhi likh sakaiN to nawaazish hogi........ jinnat k baray main kai books dekhi, bahoot see tahreeraiN paRheeN... magar beshtar maiN refernce ghaib hota hai.

chouNkay makhlooqay JINN ko amooman hawaasay khamsah say feel nahi kia jasakta, issi liyeh science abhi tak issay tasleem nahi karti BUT as a miuslim we believe k jinn ka wajood maujood hai k quran o ahaadees maiN iska zikr hai aur inferaadi taur par bhi logouN ko jinn say molaqaat ka moqaaa (kabhi kabhaar) miltaa rahta hai.... LEKIN

Jinn k baray maiN yeh detailed story aap ko kahaaN say milli. zaroor batlaaiyyegaa aur nesxt qist ka intezaar hai...

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Posted on:23rd Jun 2009, 9:51am
 

Part 2

Reference (Al-Anes Al-Jaleel)

 

Is k bad Shayteen nay Allah Talla say Zameen per rehay k ijazet lee, or aik taveel arsay tak Ebadat-e-Elahi kertay rahay, is k bad ghunahoon main mubtala ho gay, or zameen nay un k sher-angazee say pana mangtay howay Allah say feryaad ki k Shyateen ko mari Poshet per Abad na kerta.

 

Jinnoon ker serkahsi dhaik ker Allah talla nay  800 Rehber 800 Sal main bhajay. Or Jin un ko shaheed kertay rahay.

 

Ablees Sipaslar-e-Lashker

 

800 sal ki taveel jado jeht k bad bhi jab ya baz na aya to Allah Talla nay Pehlay Asman per rehnay waloon Jinnat ko  zameen per in Shayteen ko Halaaq ker k lia behja . or is Fooj ka Sipasalar Ablees tha. Or is nay attay hi in sab shateen ko thakanay laga dia.

 

Hazret Kab Ahbar Fermatay hain:

 

Ablees or is ki fooj nay in Shayateen ka qatel Aam kia, jo bachay wo Paharoon or wadyoon main ja chupay, or zameen or is ki  fooj abad ho gai.

 

Ablees k sunehri Karnamay:

 

Abless Ebadat go tha, or ziada wakat ebadat hi main guzrata tha. Or Allah nay is ko Asman per bola lia. Firshtoon nay kaha k aisa fermaberdar farishtoon main Shamil kernay k qabil ha, or Allah Talla nay isay Farishtoon k jamat main Shamil ker dia.

Abless 1 hazar sal tak pehlya asman per raha. Ablees Ebadat Elalhi kerta raha or pher dossray or pher teesray asman tak bola lia gia. Or tarqi hasel kertay kertay satvain asman tak bola lia gia.

 

Jannat ker Frishtay Harert Rizwan AS ki safaresh per Jannat main rehnay laga.

 

Coming Soon

Lanat say pehay Ablees ki Shanoo Shoket

myrizvi bhi

Ye bohat si books ka nichor ha, ager main nay reference daina shoro ker dia to her Line k bad dus dus referece dainay paray gay. jo ahm hain wo reference main nay day diay hain.

main kuch book k naam bata daita hoon, in main kafi malomat ha

Al-Anes Al-Jaleel
Ajaib-ul-Qaises
Roh-ul-Beyan

Ataraz

Ho sakta ha kuch log Ataraz bhi karain  kuch batoon per,  

isliay akher main ham jinnat ki history ka Quran or Hadees ki roshni main Jaiza lain ga.   or Hamri Malomat main InshAllah Izafa ho ga.

Ahem bat

aik bat yad a gaee, jo ham agay chal ker discuss kary gay. 

apnay kaha k Science nay abhi tak Jinnat ko tasleem nieh kia,  Asia neih ha,

or yakeen kerain  agay chal ker main ap ko kuch asia batoon ga k ap Haraan rahay joo ga.  Kun kal aik Boaht Alem say mujay bhi pata chala, or kafi dair tak main Khofzada rha.
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Posted on:23rd Jun 2009, 10:21am
 

thanx chaman bhai

ap silsilah to har haal maiN jari rakhaiN... hamari maloomaat main izafah hi hogaa... agar science nay bhi inhaiN 'tasleem' kia hai to zaroor batlaaiyyegaa...

book reference ka shukaryaa ... agar aap issay 'etraaz' nah samjhaiN to kia in books maiN bhi koi hawalah jaat maujood haiN yaa in bokks k author ka yeh 'aankhouN dekhaa ahwaal' hai?

I know k quran o hadees maiN jinnat k baray maiN kia kuch kaha gaya hai (aap issay share zaroor kijyeh gaa)...... but quran o hadees say maa.waraa (izaafi) maaloomaat jo in books maiN mosannefeen nay likhee haiN woh inka yaqeenan koi nah kaoi 'source' to batlaatay hongay....

aap meri reply say 'pareeshaan' nah hopuN... apnaa silsilah jari rakhaiN... albattah agar meray sawaalaat ka jawaab bhi mil jaye to mamnoon hounga.

sada khush rahaiN. Allah aap ko ilmay saadiq o ilmay naafay phailaanay ki taufeeq ataa karay aameen

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Posted on:23rd Jun 2009, 1:56pm
 

chaman0078

mashaAllah

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Posted on:23rd Jun 2009, 3:10pm
 

chaman0078

subhanallah very good sharing.

Bhut se loog yahe samjhte the ya hain ke shetan bhi farishta tha kyonke yea farishton ka sardar tha ... laikin shaitn shoro se hi jin tha... jesa ke app ke post main bhi hai....  is thread se bhut se logon ka concept clear ho gia hoga...Please keep posting as much you know..

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Posted on:23rd Jun 2009, 3:28pm
 

System bhai

Jee apnay bilkul theek kaha kuch log Ablees ko Frishta samjthay hain, Lakin haqiqat main ye jin hain,

Ablees Frishta nieh Jin ha is k andaza aik choti say bat say lagaya ja sakta ha,

is liay pehly ham Frishta ki tareef (defination) per ghore kertay hain
  :: Allah ki aik Masoom Makhlook jo kabhi Amer Elahi ko Rud nieh kerti""

or dosree :: Quran Pak nay saf saf keh dia ha, Ablees na Aag say bana ha

Ghore karain:

Ager Ablees Frishta hota to wo kabhi bhi Hokem Khuda say inkar na kerta, lakin us nay Hazret Adam koSajjda kernay say inkar kia, is say sabet ha k wo Frista nieh ha.
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Ablees

maine suna hai ke Ablees Allah ka farishta tha,aur usne Allah ko sajde se inkaar kiya jiski wajah se wo aj shaitan bana hai.

agar Ablees ek jin hota to iska zikar quran ki kisi ayat me hota...

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Posted on:23rd Jun 2009, 11:41pm
 

harf e dua

main ne dekha hai ke app ko mazeed knowledge ki zaroorat hai...
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Posted on:24th Jun 2009, 4:59am
 

chaman0078 & all members

thori c malomaat may b app say share kerna chahoon ga.

Quran may hay; 

    "wa ma haliqtul jinnah wal insa illa leyabodoon"
  terjuma  "our nai paida kia hum nay jinnon our insanoon ko magher wastay ibadat k"

yani hum nay jinnon our unsano ko sirf ibadat k wastay paida kia hay.our wo ibaadat ALLAH nay insanon our jino ko bata deen.jin may sab say pehla hukam hay KHUDA k Ahkaam k agay sir-e-tasleem khum kerna.

our issi khukam say start hoti hay ablees ki kahani.

Ablees ka asal neme "Azazil" hay.wo jin hay,jinaat ki paidaish agg (fire) say hay.
ferishta noor say hay and insaan mati say bana hay.
agg jab serkush hoti hay tu nuqsan phelati hay.

hawalay QURAN:
Adem ki pedaish ki gai tu sab say pehlay ferishton ko bataya gaya our tu ferishton nay ALLAH ki bargah may arz ki k YA ALLAH ye insan tu zameen per fasad phailay ga tu ALLAH nay farmaya k ye insan zameen per mera khaleefa ho ga,our jo ye insan janta hay wo tum nai jantay,pir kuch cheezon k name ferishton say poochay gay tu un nay mazret kertay hua kaha k ay ALLAH hum nai jantay in k names,pir un cheezon k names adem nay batay jo ALLAH nay usay sikhay thay.(yahaan say aghaz hota hay insan k ilam ka)
ALLAH nay farmaya may nay iss ilam ki bunyaad per Adem ko Ashraful Makhlooqat banaya hay.pir Azazil ko kaha gaya k insan Ashraful makhlooqat hay is ko sajda kero tu Azazil bola ay ALLAH ye mati say banaya gaya hay may agg say,may ferishton say b zeyada abadat kerta hon pir may iss ko sajda kyun keron.iss tara Azazil pehla na fermaan thehra our dudkaar deya gaya.

Quran may mazeed b hawalay hain.jin ka pir kisi waqat zikar zaroor keroon ga.
my dear chaman0078 app bohat achi koshish ker rehay hain but aksre qasas wali books may jo malomaat hoti hay wo puranay zamanay k qisa go logon k qisay hua kertay thay.
Quran may iss qainat k sab say pehlay nabi HAZRAT NOOH huay hain.mantion it k Adem nabi nai thay.

app apna silsala jari rakhay app ki bohat achi koshish hay,i m waiting next appisode.

if u mind then sorry
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Posted on:24th Jun 2009, 5:51am
 

atiqueje

... but aksre qasas wali books may jo malomaat hoti hay wo puranay zamanay k qisa go logon k qisay hua kertay thay....

g bhai bilkul bajaa farmayaa ... qisouN kahaaniyouN wali kitaaboun main hi bahoot kuch jinnouN k baray maiN matter maujood hai..... jiss tarah farishtouN ki real aap beeti /kahaani insaan nahi likh saktaa issi tarah jinnouN k baray main bhi insaan koi real baat nahi lkh saktaa....... in dounouN makhlooq k baraay main yaa to aasmaani saheefouN yaa ambeyaa AS k aqwaal k zariyah hi hamaiN correct /authentic info mil sakti hai.

aasmaani saheefoun maiN sirf quraan hi authentic rah gayaa hai... tahaam deger aasmaani saheefoun say aisay details ko jo ... quran/hadees say motasadam nah houN.... lia jsakta hai aur yeh kaha ajasakta hai k shayad yeh tafseelaat durust houn .... in 2 original source k elawah qissouN kahaaniyoun /khayaalaat /personal experiences par mabni jinnouN /faishtouN ki kahaaniyouN ko as kahaani sunnay main koi mozaaiqah nahi... shayad yeh likhee bhi issi Gharz say hai k insaan bunyaadi taur par kahani ko pasand karta hai.... but as a muslim we should differetiate between reality n story.

thanx bhai 4 ur comments.

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Posted on:24th Jun 2009, 6:29am
 

Note:

Assalam-o-Alikum,   Friends ap ki bat sehi ha k Qesis ker book main kuch kami bashi ho sakti ha,

Lakin Main nay jo bhi share kia ha, kafi tahqiq ker bad hi share kia ha,  ager ap say zara ghore karo gay to ap ko Kab bin Ahbar ki Rawayat milay gi, or is k ilawa main pehly hi keh chuka hoon, k Akher main ham, Quran or Hadees ki Roshni main aik Jaiza lain gay InshAllah.

Or aik bat:        kisi bhai nay kaha k Azazeel Frishta tha or us nay Allah ko Sajjda ker say inkar ker dia.   maray bhai  ye bat wazeh k wo jin tha or us nay Adem AS ko sajjda kernay say inkar ker tha, Na k Allah Ko.
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Posted on:24th Jun 2009, 9:41am
 

Part 3

Ablees Jannet main Tadrees-o-Khitabet k Oheday per Faiz howa,  Itnay Baray Oheday k bawojod Yaqoot ka member bechaya jata or Aresh k nichay hota is ber ker agay koi menmber na tha saway Aresh-Elahi kay.

 

Jab tak taleem or khitab main masroof rehta, nor ka phorera ser per lehrata rehta, Abless koi mamoli Shakhes na tha jis pay aj ham lanet kertay hain, wo mara gia to Takeber ki waja say.

 

Abhi main bat ko mukhtaser ker raha hoon"

 

Lanet k bad Albees k Hal

 

Or Abless Jin Sazaoon ker mustahiq howa un main say kuch ya hain

 

Tamam roay Zamin or Asman Awal ki bad shahi k elawa Janat k afser-e-Khazana say mehroom ker dia gai. Balkay hamisha ka liay janat main Dakhala mamno ker dia gia.

 

Jism Khanzeer of shakel bander k ho gai

Haq Talla k qurb say mehroom howa

 

Azazeel say nam badel ker Ablees tajveez kia gia.

 

Kufar ka Paishwa bana dia gia

 

Toba ker derwaza band ker dia gia.

 

Tamam dozakhyoon ka Khateeb mukerer howa

Part 4

Jab Allah Talla nay Frishton ko Sajjda kernay ko kah to sab nay kia sawaya Ablees k, or is sajda  100 sal tak taveel tha, kuch rawayt main 500 sal bhi aya ha. Jab unhoon ser othaya to dhaika Ablees peith phariay khara ha or pher Allah talla nay Azazeel ko Ablees qarar day dia. Or nikal janay ka homkum dia.

 

 

Tafseer Salbi main likha ha k jab oter jao, ka hokum howa to Adem A.S Saradeep (Hind) Hawa R.Z  (Jadda) main or Ablees (Raila) main

 

Lakin Tarekh-Jafer Tabri main ha k Ablees (Sindh) main bilkhasos Multan likah ha

 

Jadda Saudi Arabia main Waqia ha,  Jadda k meaning Mother (Maan) k ha,

 

Arafat ka naam to ap logo nay suna hi ho ga,  Arfat k meaning hain,  Janna, ya Milna,

 

Is jaga  Hazrat Adem A.S or Ama Hawa milay thay. Is isay Arafat kaha jata ha.
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Posted on:25th Jun 2009, 6:03pm
 

Kia Howa Brothers

Yar ap log kidher ho, main subho say bar bar Forum check ker raha hoon, lakin mari post k baray main koi comments nahin, 

Such pocho to yar bari search k bad ye topic shoro kia ha, Please isay agay barahain.   InshAllah ham sab k Elam main Izafa ho ga.

Ager koi Bhai is topic k baray main kuch share kerna chahay to ye bohat hi achi bat ha.


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Posted on:27th Jun 2009, 5:48am
 

Chaman bhai

Assalam alikum

Mashaallah app bauhat achi information de rahe hain, Allah app ko jazy-e-khair de aur next part ka intizaar rahega.

chaman0078 Group: Members  Joined: 26th Jan, 2009  Topic: 31  Post: 192  Age:  29  
Posted on:27th Jun 2009, 2:42pm
 

Jinnat Ka Wajood Quran, Hadess ki Roshni Main

Kuch log samjhtay hain k Jin sirf Stories main hotay hain, Haqiqat main in ka wajood nieh ha,  us ki ye sooch sirf kum Elemi ki waja say ha,

Al-Zeyarat (56)
Or main nay Jin or Insan ko sirf is liay Paida kia k wo sirf or sirf mari Ebadat karain

Ibin-e-Masood R.Z Kehtay hain K Hazrat Muhammadh PBUH Nay fermaya:

Tum main say her aik k sath Jinoon main say aik Ja-N-sheen ha.  To Sahaba nay kaha Ya RasoolAllah ap k sath?  App PBUH nay Irsahd mermay Maray sath bhi ha, Allah Talla nay mari Maded mermay or wo Muslam ho gia ha, or wo bhalai k Ilawa muhy or kuch nieh kehta.

Jinnat ki Khorak:

Jan jin Hadi ko paker ker Allah ka naam lain gay to wo un k liay Gosht ho gi, or Mangni in k janweroon ka kahan ha. App PBUH nay Irashad fermaya in dono say Astanja na karoo kun k ye Tumharay Bhayoon ka Khana ha. (Muslim 450)

Next comming soon

THE END

Assalam-o-Alikum, Friends, Nay chahatay howay bhi mujhy ye silsila
band kerna per raha ha.

Apni Duaoon main Yad Rakhyay ga.

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Posted on:16th Jul 2010, 1:40pm
 

history of jinnat

kia aap log oopar bayan ki gayee jinnat ki story se agree kertay hai. agar kertay hai tu kia 100% agree kertay hai? agar 100% agaree nahi kertay tu phir bataye ki kin baato se agree nahi kertay.
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