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Female Circumcision In Islam - Female Khatna In Pakistan

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sss09 Group: Members  Joined: 08th Oct, 2009  Topic: 4  Post: 39  Age:  29  
Posted on:8th Oct 2009, 4:54pm
 

Female Circumcision In Islam - Female Khatna In Pakistan

Female circumcision (khatna of girls) is regularly performed in Egypt and Arabia.Why is it not done in Pakistan ? Is it a religious obligation ? 

Pakistani girls are lucky.They dont have to undergo it.It involves cutting off the hood of the clitoris and in extreme cases,the entire clitoris,leaving only a small opening for urine.The women who undergo it cannot experience any sexual pleasure. 



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Posted on:8th Oct 2009, 5:18pm
 

Female Circumcision In Egypt - Female Circumcision In Arabia

i  think Egypt and Arabia ke womens nasal aur pakistani womens nasal main faraq hai..  girls ka clitor, Buzzar, ya button ko kaat ker chota kia jata hai take girls ki sex desire control main rahe.. jis aurat ka clitor bara hota hai uski sex desire bhut ziada hoti hain..  ya phir clitors bhut bara hoker bura lagta hoga is lea kaat ker reasonable size ker dya jata hai... ya phir riwaj bhi hosakta hai ke wahan ke log chota clitor pasand karte hon.Cultral rwayat aur envoirment also have big impact on people... arab ke log sehatmand aur thori heavy aurat ko pasand kerte hain..jabke pakistan ke most mard smart girls ko pasand kerte hain .. isi trah islam main nikah ka hukam laikin hum log mehndi aur mangni bhi karte hain  due to indian cultar..  pakistani nasal ki most auraton main clitor Shaid itna bara nahee hota jise katne ke nobat aye ..   I dont think its a religious obligation 

Members correct me if am wrong..

 

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Posted on:8th Oct 2009, 5:21pm
 

Female Khatna In Islam - Female Circumcision In Pakistan

Pakistani clitoris barra naheen hota ?

I dont believe it.

Female Circumcision In Egypt - Female Circumcision In Africa

In Egypt and sub Saharan Africa,they just do it.An ancient custom.If a girl has not had khatna,she cannot marry later.Many girls run away,some die,some have terrible complications later.Again,Pakistani girls are very very lucky.They get to keep all their sex organs.




Waterr Group: Members  Joined: 15th Jul, 2009  Topic: 59  Post: 3789  Age:  27  
Posted on:8th Oct 2009, 5:47pm
 

Female Circumcision In Islam - Female Circumcision In Christianity And Jewism

The first thing to be realized is that islam itself has not introduced female circumcision rather its roots are more strong in christanity(people who strictly follow their religion) and in some jews sects ... 2nd thing No direct hadees or Quranic ayat supports it .. Or refute it...There is a Daeèf(weak) hadees that states male circumcision is sunnah and female as makromah(honorable) non of islamic sect take it as sure hadees... In egypt its practiced as CULTURAL NORM .. Alot of Skills for female circumcision are required If done must only be limited to removing hood/cap of clitoris if even a small part of clitoris is removed its MUTILATION that is to cut an organ that is haram .. As far as hood removal is concerned its permissible but should not be encouraged due to 3 reason .. 1) much more skill is req as compared to male circum and can lead to clitoris part cutting that would devoid female of sex pleasure... 2) its like organ cutting .. 3) its is purely for REDUCING SEX DESIRE no gain as hygiene improvement as like in male .. The problem in egypt etc is people be made aware first and then it may or may nt be banned... I knw al ths as i had read an african actress(chiristian by religiön) struggle against it in reader digest so i searched its islamic aspects, every action islamically has 5 level obligatory,commendable,permissible,detestable,haram(forbidden)... Only n only hood removal is permissible nothing else And That Too NOT Encouraged
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Posted on:8th Oct 2009, 5:51pm
 

Female Circumcision In Islam - Female Circumcision In Other Countries

this is deffinatly not a islamic teaching... ager mazeed gehrai main jana hai to kissi arbi se pochna pare ga...  Dunya ke bhut sare countries main aisa nahee hota jaise  USA, China, India, Pakistan, not even Europeon countries..

wallah alam

sss09 Group: Members  Joined: 08th Oct, 2009  Topic: 4  Post: 39  Age:  29  
Posted on:8th Oct 2009, 5:54pm
 

Reply: Female Circumcision In Islam In Pakistan

Good points water.Sometimes cultural practices are blindly copied.Luckily this one has not been copied in Pakistan.As far as khatna of males is concerned,it has been made the subject of a number of unncessary rituals,feasts and doing it in public in some cases.It leads to considerable pain and shame.The Turks habitually do it to grown boys.  
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Posted on:8th Oct 2009, 5:56pm
 

Female Circumcision In Europe - Female Circumcision In England

Yes England etc have totally banned it but as i told in egypt etc where it is a norm req proper media awarness othrwise banning wil lead to secret circumcision and no gain.. Bt its for sure only hood removal is permissible bt not a single bit of clitoris be removed its haram as its organ cutting traumatic and cruel but hood removal is not Encouraged
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Posted on:8th Oct 2009, 5:59pm
 

Female Circumcision In Islam Vs Male Circumcision In Islam

Its a sunnah not an obligatiön but has many many good health efècts(protect from frm urinary infectn, penile cancer etc) ... And be practiced preferably within 7day of birth has min pain .. At that time
sss09 Group: Members  Joined: 08th Oct, 2009  Topic: 4  Post: 39  Age:  29  
Posted on:8th Oct 2009, 6:05pm
 

Circumcision In Islam: Advantages Vs Disadvantages

Water,it can have some negative effects as well.Barbers can really botch it.

My khatna was performed at an older age in front of a lot of people and it felt very bad.

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Posted on:8th Oct 2009, 6:12pm
 

Female And Male Circumcision Are Done In Hospitals

These days general surgeon do it(male) and in hospt and the infant is really not much aware whats going, but still we have seen 3 adult cases 2 of them were new muslims ... In hospt for adults general anesthesia is given
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Posted on:8th Oct 2009, 6:20pm
 

Female Circumcision In Islam - In Saudi Arabia

yar saudi arab main to bara kuch hota hai... it does,nt mean keh every thing they do is according to islam... wahan per larki ko paisa de ker yani khareed ker shadi ki jati hai.. islam main to yeah nahee likha... again i will say its their own custom or cultral thing..
sss09 Group: Members  Joined: 08th Oct, 2009  Topic: 4  Post: 39  Age:  29  
Posted on:8th Oct 2009, 6:30pm
 

Female Circumcision In Islam - Advantages Vs Disadvantages

Water,as you are a medical student,I would like to ask you :

Does female Circumcision help in genital hygiene ? The vagina has so many odours.Smegma,just like the uncircumcised male ? Does female Circumcision help in cleaning the vulva ?

Waterr Group: Members  Joined: 15th Jul, 2009  Topic: 59  Post: 3789  Age:  27  
Posted on:8th Oct 2009, 6:37pm
 

Reply: Female Circumcision In Islam - Advantages Vs Disadvantages

I have mentioned in my reply it has no added health benefit as male.. What has vaginal odour to do with clittoral hood..else doc here can reply good and authentic
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Posted on:8th Oct 2009, 6:41pm
 

Female Circumcision In Islam - Advantages Vs Disadvantages

In the male,they cut off the foreskin and say it smells cleaner.

Same principal for the female.

Female Circumcision In Islam - Facts

Waterr,you mentioned the readers digest article on female circumcision.I read that too.She was a Somalian girl.Her circumcision was performed in a really cruel manner and for years,she could not even pass urine properly.A girl is just supposed to be brave as they open her legs and tell her that there are bad things between a girl's legs.She said she could never forget the pain.On the internet,I have seen pictures of female circumcision and there is so much blood as if an animal has been slaughtered.Ouch.....  

Strange as it may seem,some women undergo circumcision voluntarily for cosmetic reasons,calling it "trimming" of the clit hood.  

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Posted on:9th Oct 2009, 4:48am
 

Female And Male Circumcision Is Now Safely Done By Doctors

Waterr,

You mentioned the benefits of male circumcision from the medical point of view.Wel,the medical community is again divided on these points.Half a century ago,they were unanimous that circumcision should be performed on every baby.Now they are not so sure.Some advocate circumcision,others don't.The main thing is to keep the penis clean.The vagina is also not cut but it can be kept clean with some effort.

Also bear in mind that male circumcision became safer only during the last 40-50 years after it was performed by doctors.Before that,what with unsterilised instruments and inepts nais (barbers) khatan could be ery dangerous.Many penises were damaged and many boys even died especially in the villages. 

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Posted on:9th Oct 2009, 10:44pm
 

Female And Male Circumcision - Medical Benefits

Sss09 pata nai apka kya khayal he magar net search kya jaye tou penis ka cancer na hona muslim and kuch jew sect mai ka wahid waja Circumcision nikala gaya is waqat west mai khud isko promote kar rahe ha aur HPV virus ka bhe kam khatray hota he jo warts karta he iske alawa ye baat tou sure ha k hygiene zada achi Circumcision se he hoti ha aur urine infection ka chance bhe kam hota he , agar walaidain mai ilm ho tou chahey pehley hafte mai karwa lain khatna
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