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Diplomate Group: Members  Joined: 18th Oct, 2009  Topic: 53  Post: 3436  Age:  37  
Posted on:1st Dec 2009, 1:55pm
 

Myrizvi bhai

Myrizvi..
I presented there middle part of aya majeeda which shows the lawful to Muttah
the siyaq-o-sbbaq although nesesry to get the meanings of the aya majeeda ..but it is also need to take real menings of that..
   
The trick in Translation :-

   Now while doing the translation of this verse generally the word,"Famastamtatum"  is translated as "when you get benefit from them" ,but the direct translation  "when you do Muttah with them"  is avoided 
above posted translation is not wrong but is against  the prevailing way of translation... where always by doing translation we do not take the literarymeaning of the word but take their Sharri  sense of acceptation is taken, 

for example :- The literary meaning of,   Salaat is Dua,  Soom means  to holdon,   Hajj   means Attention. But we  know that in Shariyyat these words have their special meanings which are quite different from their literary meaning and when such words will come in Ayyat or in narrations their Sharri meaning will be taken....not the literary meanings.

 For example :- while one says " Qad Qama-tes'salaat " it means to perform special Ebaadat " Namaaz " and not just to do some dua. and so on, So it is very clear that while translating SalaatSoom , Hajj. or Jehad always their  Sharri meaning will be taken not just the literary. So the word Muttah though its literary meaning is to take benefit but this word has its complete sense and meaning in Sharri language. 

Therefore while translating the Quranic word  "Famastamtatum"  to avoid its Sharri  meaning........ that is Muttah

shows that.... some thing some where is being wrong or some weakness is being covered.

 Daal mein Kuch Kala Hay..... 

       Tafseer-e-Kabeer Pt-3 Page 289,  Dur-e-Munsoor Pt-2 Page-140.

agreed with bewaqoof at his last post on previous page



Diplomate Group: Members  Joined: 18th Oct, 2009  Topic: 53  Post: 3436  Age:  37  
Posted on:1st Dec 2009, 2:13pm
 

Myrizvi bhai

mera matlab hr giz app sy behas krna nhi hey..or na hi main ny kisi behas ki hatar ye post kiya hey...bulky main ny un facts ki trf apni danist k mutabiq ishara krny ki koshish ki hey jin sy humey maslki ihtelaff ka behana bna kr door rkha jata hey..

beherhaal main iss thread main iss issue pr mzeed behas nhi kroon ga agerchy, mery pass iss hawaley k liye hadees/rwayaat refrence b hain...

chonu'k app ka hi kehna  hey k is topic pr tfseeli behas ho chuki hey

waslam..DIplomate



rafaz Group: Members  Joined: 14th Mar, 2007  Topic: 20  Post: 941  Age:   
Posted on:1st Dec 2009, 2:15pm
 

@ Diplomat

Aap ka article read kya usk bad may nay ek quran majeed with tafseer read kya to maloom hoowa k aap ki bat may aap k apney dalail k mutabiq wazan ha

      leken

Ahl sunnat hazrat k yeehean is ki tafseer doosri tara ki gyee ha aur us may kisi bhee muta ka ziker nahee ha .....albata shia hazrat nay is ki tafsser may is ko mutta say tabeer kya ha k is ka matlab muta say ha jeb k sunni hazrat k yeehen is say totally disagree kya gya k is may koi muta ki koi bat ki gyee ha
rafaz Group: Members  Joined: 14th Mar, 2007  Topic: 20  Post: 941  Age:   
Posted on:1st Dec 2009, 2:25pm
 

@ Diplomat

Ek bat aur ager jis tara aap nay muta k haq may dalail dyee heen to phir to anal sex bhee aurtoon k sath jaiz ho ga qk is k barey may jo ek aayat aaie ha k aurtoon tumari kahtyeen heen in may jis tara aao jao ,is ka lafzi turjuma to yee he kheta ha jeb k ulmas is say sirif vaginal sex murad leetey heen
myrizvi Group: Members  Joined: 20th Apr, 2008  Topic: 130  Post: 7741  Age:  55  
Posted on:2nd Dec 2009, 3:38am
 

rafaz

well said ...

aqar quran k kissi meaning /mafhoom maiN ikhtelaaf ho to hadees aur ajmaa.e.ummat say rajoo kia jata hai.

above mentioned ayat say "shia maslak wali mutta" ki tafseer say last 1400 yrs maiN islamic scholars ki bhari aksariyat muttafiq nahi hai... quran khud apnay baray main kahta hai k log mujh say hedayat bhi patay hain aur gumrahi bhi.

within islam mukhtalif firqouN kaqaaid maiN bahoot say aisay ikhtefataa sadiyouN say chalay aa rahay hain jo abhi tak khatam nahi howay nah qayamat tak inkay khatam honay ka imkaan hai. "aqalmandi" ka taqazah yehi hai har fard apnay apnay maslak ko follow to karay lekin jab Allah open zehan day to beghair laray jhagRay academically kissi bhi issue /ikhtelaaf ko study karay... daleel k saath. meri hamesha say aik hi daleel rahi hai jo tamaam ikhtelafata ki kunji hai k.... asal islam wohi hai jo

1) Quran maiN saaf saaf likhee howi hai

2) Quran say hum-ahang ahaadees maiN mazkoor hai

3) Quran o sunnat ka wohi mafhoom "authentic" hai jissay sahabah karaam RA nay bayaan kia hai

4) kisis bhi issue /maslay maiN ikhtelaafay roy ki soorat maiN AJMAA.E.UMMAT sanad ka darjah rakhti hai. aur yeh ajmaa (aksariyati roy ki sadaqat) hadees say bhi saabit hai, common sense say bhi aur maujoodah democratic world ka chalan bhi k ikhtelaaf ki soorat main voting kara lo... jiss par ittefaaq ho ja.ay wohi law ba jaa.ay gaa..... ajmaa.e.ummat ka matkab bhi yehi hai k last 1400 yrs k ulemaa /fuqahaa ki bhari aksariyat jiss roy k haq main vote deti rahi hai ossi ko shariyat ka qanoon hona chhaiyeh




Diplomate Group: Members  Joined: 18th Oct, 2009  Topic: 53  Post: 3436  Age:  37  
Posted on:2nd Dec 2009, 12:49pm
 

myrizvi/rafaz

sub sy pehly to adab arz hey app dono ko

iss k baad main apni baat shuroo krta hoon muhterm members jaisa k main ny apni uper wali post main arz kiya tha k main dobara sy iss topic pr behas nhi kroon ga...or main apney wady pr qayem b tha ...laiken app ki post prr kr mujy dobara goya hona prra...to mery wajub-ul-ihtram forum friends..baat sirf itni hey k hum jis froohi ikhtelafat main ulj chuky hain ussi ny humey mslki jung ka wjooh bn kr buht nuqsaan diya hey aj jehan humey kisi aik baat pr aik ummat hoony ka sboot daina chahiye tha whan hum tukroon main but chukey hain aur iss ko hum ney apni mrzi k mutabiq naam nihaad ajmaa-e-ummat ka naam dy rkha hey..

Myrizvi Bhai:- app kis ajmaa-e-ummat ki baat krty hain jo 1400 saal sy ly kr aj tk iss baat pr mutfiq nhi k namaz hath khol kr prni chahiye ya hath band kr....? aur agr hath band'ny hain to jism k kis jaga band'ny munasib hain.....?

app kis ajmaa-e-ummat ki baat krty hain jo ajj tk yeh ty nhi kr paie k ramzan main sehri k oqat or aftari k oqat kia hain.....?

app kis ajmaa-e-ummat ki baat krty hain k jis ko ajj tak yeh nhi pta chal ska k namaz ka afzal wqt kia hey...?

abb ata hon main asal moozoo ki trf to janab-e-wala yehi "MUTTAH" Nabi kreem (s.a.a.w) k zamaney ma jaiez tha or iss pr ajmaa-e-ummat b tha ..or bani-e-shriyat(s.a.a.w) ny appni zindgi main iss fayle(MUTTAH) sy kbi mna nhi frmaya q k ye islamic akhamaat main sy hey..

Hazrat Abubakar Sdeeq (R.A) k zamaney main b MUTTAH jaiez tha or iss pr ajmaa-e-ummat tha..

Hazrat Umer (R.A) k daor-e-halafat k awaiel tak b MUTTAH jaiez or halal tha aur uss wqt tk b iss pr ajmaa-e-ummat tha...laiken issi door-e-halafat main by the help of state power force iss ko haram kr diya geya or iss pr aik naam nihaad ajmaa-e-ummat ka lable lg geya..jo aj tak hey

swal yeh paida hota hey k bani-e-shariyat (s.a.a.w) ki hayat-e-mubarika main jo fayle jaiez or halal rehta hey uss ko baad main by force haram qrar dy diya jata hey...to kia khuda nukhwasta (mery mu main khak ) nauzoo billa minkazalik rabbi mu'aaz allah Rsool-e khuda ghalat they ...nhi hr giz nhi 

CONCULUSION
jo b halal-e-MUhammad (s.a.a.w) hy wo aj tak halal hey.... or jo haram-e-Muhammad (s.a.a.w) hy wo aj tak haram hey...chahey iss main jitni mrzi trmeemy kr k iss ko ajmaa-e-ummat ka naam hi q na dy doo..
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Rafaz...app jis aya majeeda ki trf ashara frmarehey hain yani ortain "tumahari khaitiyan hain un k paas jaisey chahoo jaoo" iss baat sy anal sex ka hr giz turjuma nhi liya jaskta...
iss ki logic yeh hey k khuda ta'ala ny frmaya k aurtain tumhari khaitiyaan hain...means khaiti ussy keha jata hey jahan kuch boya jaye to wahan kuch ugta hey..app smjdaar hain app ko pta hey k aik shadi shuda mrd k liye uss ki aurt ka konsa muqaam khaiti hey..aur uss ko kis jga beej bhona chahiye ..or kehaan sy fsal aye/ugey gi..asal main baat ye hy k iss khaiti main jaisey chahoo fsal boo loo koi mumaanit nhi hey yani jis andaz sy chahoo...laiken sirf khaiti main...kisi or jga nhi..
hum iss ka mtlab kuch orr lay lain to yeh hamrai kam aqlii hi hoo skti hey or kuch nhi..

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myrizvi Group: Members  Joined: 20th Apr, 2008  Topic: 130  Post: 7741  Age:  55  
Posted on:3rd Dec 2009, 4:03am
 

Ajmaa.e.ummat

ki defination agar kissi ko nahi maloom to iska sadah saa matlab hai:

ummat k ulemaa ki aksariyat ki roy = ajmaa.e.ummat

ab yeh kahna 'ahmaqanah see baat' hai k ajmaa.e.ummat yeh nahi kar paayee woh nahi kar payee.

jamhooriyat /democracy ki tarah ajmaa.e.ummat ka matlab bhi yehi hai k jo aksariyat ki roy hai wohi rule-of-the-game hai.... tahaam aqliat ko apni roy rakhnay ka haq jamhoori nizaam main bhi haasil hota hai aur woh inferadi taur par iss par amal bhi karsaktay haiN.......... lekin "state affairs" aksariyat ki roy k motaabiq hi chalaa.ay jatay haiN. yehi democracy kahlati hai.

aik islami reyaasat (agar koi ho to) bhi ijtemayee maamlaat "ajmaa.e.ummat" k motabiq chalaayegi.......... taqat tamaam "aqliatouN" ko apni apni fiqah /roy par amal karnay ki azaadi hogi.

Allah hafiz ... and no more discussion plzzzzzzzzz

rafaz Group: Members  Joined: 14th Mar, 2007  Topic: 20  Post: 941  Age:   
Posted on:16th Dec 2009, 5:27am
 

please read

please read the fatwa no 10382 on above subject your mind is clear ,the matter is related to open your eyes

islamqa.com/ur/ref/10382
For More Detail Click On Page No: 1>>
 
 
 
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