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Reason Of Firqa - Firqa Parasti - Different School Of Thoughts In Islam

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Posted on:19th Jan 2010, 7:24am
 

Reason Of Firqa - Firqa Parasti - Different School Of Thoughts In Islam

Islam mein mojoad kahee firqoon(School of thought) k wajood per Kissi nay kia khoub kaha hai keh islam mein firqoon ka hona afsoosnak naheen han firqa parasti ka hona aik almia hai. 
Mokhtalif firqoon ka hona iss baat ko sabit kerta hai keh iss ki bunyadi wajah yea hai keh mokhtalif loaqoon nay jab apni apni tehqeeq ki oar iss say say jo natahij akhz hohay oas mein say kahee batain dosroon say mokhtalif theen. 
Tou ilm oar search k darwazay say firqoon nay janam lia ,agar loaq tehqeeq na kertay tou woo apnay mojoada approaches say motafiq hee rehtay,jaisay aksar app nay daikha hoga keh jab 2 ilmi loaq baithy hotay hain tou oan mein kahee ikhtalafat hotay hain magar jab aik la ilm admi oar aik ilm wala behs kerta hai tou iss baat ka kafi chance hota hai keh dono kissi aik noktay per forun agree hojahain. 
Tou basically firqa bazat-e-khoud itni burri cheez naheen,Her muslman kissi na kissi school of thought(firqay) ko follow kerta hai ,jo oan kay imamoon nay research ki hoti hai wahan say apnay deeni masahil say rehnomahee laita hai, 
Firqa parasti ghalt hai yehni apnay firqay ki paristish kerna oar yea samjhna keh sirf mera firqa hee dorost haibaqi sab galt/haram/nonmuslim hai. 
fiqa parasti tab janam laiti hai jab humhain dosray firqay kay motahaliq naheen jantay,oan kay point of view say choonkeh agah hee nahee hotay iss lihay dilloon oar zehnoo mein fasalay barah jatay hain. 
Iss thread mein hum Ail Sunnat (Bralvi) oar Ail Hadees/wahabi/Zakir Naik/Talban school of thought ko discuss karain gay .
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Posted on:19th Jan 2010, 7:27am
 

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Posted on:20th Jan 2010, 6:53am
 

aapkadost bhai

aap k khayal main junaid jamshed ka taluq kis sect se hae ? mera khayal hae woh bhi ( baqol sab k ) wahabi hain . jab k un k naaton ki albums bhi market main ati hain is k ilawa deeni ijtemaat main bhi unhain bulaya jata hae un ki naatain suni jati hain . aik baat aur bhi k junaid jamshed ko aile sunnat bhi apni majalis main naat khauni k liye bulatay hain . pehlay unhon ne inkar kar diya tha lekin aile hadees k alim ne hi unhain kaha k aap un ki mehfil main bhi zaroor paRhain takay ahled hadeeson se yeh dagh bhi dhul jaye k woh naat nahi suntay ya paRhtay :) isi tarah ali haider bhi naat paRhtay hain ( pata nahi woh abhi tak ail e tashee hain ya woh bhi aile hadees hogaye hain ) Nabi pak (s.a.w.w) ki shan bayan karna bohat achi baat hae naat usay kehtay hain jo Nabi pak (sallaho alehe wasalam ) ki siffaat hain jab k khud se jo un ki tareef ki jati hae usay kuch aur kehtay hain naam yaad nahi araha . kehnay ka maqsad yeh k aile hadees bhi naat khuani k khilaf nahi hain lekin kiya Nabi pak (sallaho alehe wasalam ) ki shan ya tareef bayan kar dena kafi hae ? kiya hum par yeh lazim nahi k Un ki sunnat aur amaal ko apni zindagi ka khasa bana lain ? apni zindagiyon ko Seeratun Nabi main dhaal lain ? aap ne aik acha topic start kiya hae i think k kisi ki zaat ko nishana banaye baghair agar is main discussion hoti rahi tou aik doosre k sect k baray main agar koi ghalat fehmiyan hain tou woh bhi door hojayengi . neez aik doosre k sect k bazurgon aur ulmaye deen ki tazeem bhi dil main paida hogi .
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Posted on:20th Jan 2010, 6:42pm
 

MutasimBil

app ne kuch saloo qabal k wahabi deobande ko naat khuaa dekha hai

app wahabi ke tareekh utha kar dekh lee sirf naat se he nahi balkee unhoo ne tu peere mureede ko bhi najaiz kaha tha sirf etna nahi balkee dheero aqaid se ekhteelaf karte the jab dekha k ess tarha awam unn k hath nahi aigee tu Ahlesunnat ke tarha peere mureede bhi shuru ke naat bhi shuru ke phir aheesta aheesta deoband mein kuch YA RASOOL ALLAH ka bhi naara lagana shuru kar deya yeh sab ahlesunnat ko apne taraf kehechne k leye kya gaya aur bhi khoshees hai k essa karee

jesa k ajj bhi salat-o-salam k munkir hai yeh leken kab loogo ko gumrah karne k leye yeh bhi shuru kar dee kuch pata nahi enn wahabioo kaaa

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Posted on:21st Jan 2010, 2:45am
 

apka dost

bht afsoos hua hai k apne wha se copy kr k yha paste krdia..................agr hum apky topic me is behas k liye ana chahty to apko copy paste krne ki zrurat hi paish nhi ati........................

aur ye forum k rules k b hilaaaf hai k ek ki post ko ap apni post me copy paste kro.................agr yhi behas krni thi to wha krty.................

baqi wahabio k bare me apki jo soch haina isko change kro..................sbse pehle bhool jao k na ko iwahabi hai na sunni hai sb muslim he...................ok
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Posted on:21st Jan 2010, 8:15am
 

mutasim & husna

MutasimBil

App ka bohat shukeria keh app nay contribute kia oar meri meri maloomat mein izzafa kia,JUNAID JAMSHAID Oar Ali Haider ....nay wakahee Naat khawani ki hai magar in kataulaoq Ail Hadees say naheen balkeh Tableeghi Jammat say hai,jiss mein Deobandi bhee hain oar wahabi oar ail hadees bhee hain.

Oar Tableegi jammat bazahir kissi aik maslak ki tarjaman honay ka dawa nahee kerti tou iss mein aik bohat bari tadaad Bralvi maslak ka bhee loaq shareek hojatay hain jinhain apnay maslak ka knowledge naheen hota.

Oar jahan tak meri maloomat hain Junaid Jamshed ka taloulaq bhee issi tarah ki aik family say tou aik hikmat kay teht hee in ko Naat khawani ki ijjazat di gahee hai waisay bhee karooron ki tadaad mein do ki hasiat aik exeptional case ka zomray mein aati hai. oar jahan tak Amal ki baat hai oas say kohee bhee inkar naheen ker sakta app nay kaisay jaan lia keh jo loaq Naat parhaty hain woo amal nheen kertay tou kia app ki nazar mein JJ oar Ali Haider baamal insan naheen?????

 

Husna Behn

App topic ko mein divert naheen krna chahta tha iss lihay oas thread ki woo tamam behs jo iss topic ay relevant thi oas ko idher copy ker dia mein choonkeh moderator naheen warna oas ka link day daita jaisay akasar previus posts mein hota raha hai.

Iss sy fydaea hota hai keh baat ko repeat nahen hoti mein nay nayaht emandari say woo tamam posts ko copy paste with reference kay kia app ki narazgi haq bajanib hoti ager mein posts ko copy kertay hohay edit kerta ya app kay text ka sath kissi oar ka naam likhta.....

Magar phir bhee meri wjah say app ki dill aazari hohee tou mein mazrat khaw hoon beherhal ab tou app tou kissi mohtem Moderator sb nay ye monasib samjha hai keh oas post ko he delete ker dia mera point of view janay baghair......

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Posted on:21st Jan 2010, 10:04am
 

Wahabi koun hain?

Wahab allah ka aik nam hai oar Wahabi Allah wallay ko bhee keh saktay hain magar jo "wahabi firqa" say murrad Abdul Wahab Najdi jo keh Arab kay allaqay "Najd" k aik maroof  aalim e Deen thay oan kay mannany waloon ko wahabi kehtay hain.

Hadees ki kahee kitaboon bashmool saha sittah oar bukhari Sharif mein aata hai aik dafah humaray peyaray Nabi SAWW kissi Ghazwa k baad Bait ul mall ki taqseem ker rahay thay keh aik shakhs jo abhi nia nia muslman hoa tha oas nay intahee badtameezi say kaha" Allah ka Nabi Allah ka khouf karoo oar Insaff say kam lo "Sahaba Rizi tahalah nay iss bat tameezi per apni talwarain nikal deen magar Rehmat ul almin nay manah ker dia oar woo shakhs yea sorate hall daikh ker Hazoor SAWW ki tarf posht ker k chala gia....App nay kaha yea masheet ellahee hai iss ki nasal mein say aisay loaq paida hongay jo neyat ebbadat gozzar hongay magar in mohabbat e mustafa naheen hogi in kay aamal qymat k din kissi kam naheen aahain gay.

Wahabi maslak ko study kernay walay kehtay hain keh Wahabi maslak kay bani Wahah Najdi ka taholoq bhee oasi shaks kay khandan say tha.

 

 

 

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Posted on:25th Jan 2010, 9:46am
 

Molana Abdul Wahab najdi Sb oar Saud family

Molana Abdul wahab Najdi nay poray arab kay tableeghi doray kiahay magar in kay nazriat ko kaheen bhee  maqboliat na milli jiss say yea bohat mayoos hohay oar wapas najd tashreef lay gahy.

Oas waqat arab par muslmanoo ki  akhri khilafat rule ker rahee thi jiss ko Turkey say control kia jatta tha oan kay aqahid ail e sunnat say miltay thay wo rohaniat kay qahil thay oar oan kay doar mein Melad ul Nabi kay programme bhee hotay thay.Abdul wahab najdi rohaniat kay shadeed mokhalif thay onhoon jab yea daikha keh oan kay nazriat ko kaheen pazerahee nahee mill rahee tou onhoon Saud family jo oan kay nazeriat ko dill say manti thi mein apna asar oar mazboot kia ,Saud family financially bohat mazboot thi agercheh in mein say kahee ka paisha rah zahni oar dakay dalna bhee tha.

Molana nay in ko sysat mein aanay ka kaha oar oas waqat Saltanat e Bartania kay tahwan ,yad rahay keh oas waqat saltanat e bartania Turkey kay ghilaf tha oar ussay kohee aisi taqat ki zarrorat thi jo iss kay lihay aik acha "ailkar" k toar per kam ker sakay oar ajj tak ker rahay hain laikin abb inhoon nay apna aaqa UK kay bajahai USA ko bana dia  
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Posted on:26th Jan 2010, 7:05pm
 

Ap ka dost

app ne sahi hadees coat kar ke aur wahabi firqe ke ebtada ka pas manzaar bahut acha aur haq bajaneeb bataya hai... leken ess se Un loogo per specially Hasna Sister ko samaj nahi ayee gaa aur enn ka reply yeh hogaa main simple Muslim ho hameesha ke tarha se ess leye enn se zeyada behes mein maat uljheeye gaa warna yeh tu apne firqe ke asleeyaat manne wale nahi hai enn ke wajah se deegar loogo mein laraiyaan shuru ho jai geee.

halanke Ibne Maja ke hadees ka mafhoom hai k Najad se shaitanee qafla baraamad hogaa aur loogo ko gumraah karee ga aur ess hadees k mutabiq tareeban 1200 saal baad ess firqe ka zahoor pazeer hua..

Agar yeh loog hadeeso ke kitaboon ko apne firqe se nikal kar apne aleemo ke tafseer se bahar nikal kar jayyad ulama aur Sahi-ul-Aqeeda aleem ke tafseer parhte tu enhe zaroor samaj ateee.

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Posted on:27th Jan 2010, 5:38am
 

paroot

kitna ..choti aur ghatiya soch haina apki..............k ap ek muslim ko ek muslim ki haisiyat se nhi blkay firqay ki nazar se daikhty he mjy bs ye btaye  k nbi pak s.a.w.w kis firqay se tlq rkhty thy.................wo sunni thy ya wahabi kha iqrar kia unho ne .............

apne wahabi k naam per muslims ko kafar kha jbky ek muslim dosre ko kafar khy kia ye sahi hai...................sirf isliye k hum apky peero faqeero ko nhi manty he unky agy nhi jukhty he....................

ap bht bre jahil he k apko tameez hi nhi hai k ek muslim k sath kistra paish ana chahye wahabi and sunni kuch b nhi he mgr ap yha jothy per gye he hmare Allah ki shaan hi itni hai k hm usi se mangty he aur whi hme daita hai na k murda walio aur peero  se mangty he apki tra...................aj ap jaise loug tahar qadri ko sajde krty he kio k wo loug sunni hena wo zinda hai aur sajde krwata hudko ap loug kia andhay ho gongay aur behray ho ye sb apko kbhi nazar nhi aye ga jo k abhi horha hai..................

Allah k ilawa kisi ko sajda jaiz nhi hai phir ap sunni loug tahar qadri ko sajday kio krty ho kafaro ki tra unky pau per jukhna kha ki suuniyat hai..............

yhi sach haina ap jaise lougo ka...............ungli uthani haito apne iird gird k lougo per uthao jahal to ho hi aur kafrana rasoomat b ada krty ho.............

afsoos hai ap jaise lougo per jb daleelo se kaam nhi bna to apne ilzaa mtarashi shuru krdi tum jo b kho me muslim hi paida hui aur muslim hi duniya se jau gi with out any firqa.................jb kisi kale ko kisi goray per aur kisi goray ko kisi kale per koi bertri hasil nhi to sunni firqa aur wahabi firqa kia haisiyat rkhty he...................sb musalman he apko nabi pak s.a.w.w ki bate nhi yaad ati kia.........................


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Posted on:27th Jan 2010, 7:57am
 

Firqa Q Muslim q nahee !!!

Beshak humari pehli oar bunyadi pehchan as a "muslim" hai iss per kissi ko shak naheen hona chaehay.Oar islam kay tamam baray firqay jin mein ail e sunnat (Bralvi/Deobandi etc) oar Ail e Tashi bhee sab muslman hain.Tou jab kohee yea kahay keh woo sunni hai tab bhee muslim hee rhay ga oar agar yea kahay keh shia tab bhee muslman rahay ga.


Hazoor SAWW oar Sahaba karam RA  oar Tabah Tabheen kay doar k baad islam ko jab kahee masahil sharhee ka samna hoha tou oas waqat kay Imam jaisay Imam Abu Hanifa /Imam Malik /Imam Shafhee jiss nay apni zindagi islam ki fiqa tarteeb dainay mein sarf ki tou woo qouam jo in mashil mein hazaroon groups oar school of thought mein thi in hazrat ki wajah say woo aik nazam mein aagahee.

Inn imamoon nay bhee apni tarf say kohee baat naheen ki jo baat ki Quran oar Hadees say akhz ki apny point of view ko haq per samjhtay honay k bawajood dosroon ki rai ka bhee aitram kertay thay oar samjhtay keh woo bhee apni tehqeeq say theek hain.

In imamoon ko na mannay wallay bhee in ki tehqeeq say istafada kertay hain ,farq sirf yea hai keh moqalad (Ail Hadeees /wahabi k ilazwa taqreeban tamam firqay) woo jab kissi aik imam ko mantay hain tou oas ki sari batain oar fiqa ko tasleem kertay hain.

Oar ghair mokalad jaisay ail hadees oar wahabi woo bhee in imamoon ki tehkeeq say istfada kertay hain magar kissi aik imam kay mokalad naheen hotay ablkeh kohee baat kissi Imam ki tou kohee kissi Imam ki.

Tamam muslman (mokalad) kissi na kissi aik Imam ki fiqa ka motabiq apni life basar kertay hain ,iss say yea murrad naheen keh woo apnay imam ko Quran oar Hadees say barh ker tarjeeh daitay hain q keh Imam nay bhee jo tehkeeq ki hoti hai woo Quran oar sunnat say hi ki hoti hai magar yahan imam say murrad fiqa ka imam hain ...imam masjid ya kohee peer faqeer ya leader naheen...agar muslman apnay imam jaisay Imam Abu Hanifa RA,Imam Shafhee RA ,Imam Hambal RA,Imam shafhee RA, Imam Malik RA,Oar Imam Jafar RA per motafiq na hoti tou ajj her muslman apni zaat mein aik firqa hota.


kaisi ajeeb baat hai keh oper ki in hastihoon ko na mannay wallay kehtay hain keh inn ko na manoo khoud hee Quran oar Hadees say nathij akhaz karoo oar agar kohee problem ho tou Dr Zakir ka Question Answer session sunno!!!!!!
 




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Posted on:27th Jan 2010, 9:19am
 

aapka dost

apki bate apni jagha theek he..................mgr kisi ek frd ka specially nam ele kr usy ye tk kehna k apne firqay ka naam nhi laina chahty ye baat ghalt hai...................mgr jb kisi ko ye baat hazam krna mushkil haito na kre iska matalb ye nhi k wo dosro ki dil azari kre.................usko mjboor kre aur mnwaye k tum ye ho................tum aise ho..................istra kisi per dbao daal kr firqa nhi bnaya jata hai kisi per dbao daal kr k tum is firqay k ho sath sath us firqay ko bura bhla kehna ye kha ki insaniyat hai aur sath me ye b kehna k tum apne firqay ko show nhi krna chhty kio k ye firqa ghalt hai...................paroot apky dil bhraas agr isi tra km hoti hai to kro.....................ap jo mrzi mjy samjho mgr yha kia suna rhy ho wo b mera naaam le le kr.....................apko zra tameez nhi hai kia?

appka dost apne jin jin imaamo ka naam lia hai ye sbhi he mgr zrori nhi hai k inky bare me sbhi ko ilam ho kio k schools colledge me in imaamo k bare me hum ko nhi perhaya jata hai aur na hi quran aur hadees me inka khi naam hai................apko inka ilm hai to achi bat hai.............
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Posted on:27th Jan 2010, 9:31am
 

aapka dost and paroot

apko ek baat me aur clear krdu...................hmare handan me firqa parasti nhi chlti hai..............mere parents b hudko wahabi and sunni nhi kehty he...............hum apni zindgia islaam k asoolo per chla rhy he bs aur hudko nabi pak s.a.w.w k tirze zindgi per dhalne ki koshish krty he..........agr ap loug aise nhi krsakty he toi nhi kre ap apne walio ki ruho ko hush krne k liye dhool bjaye unky mizaaro per nachy dhamaale dale..................

tahar qadri ki misaal apko oper di hai ye ap jaise lougo ki ek haqeeqat hai k kisi k b pau per gir perty ho...............aur yhi sb mizara per hota hai..............


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Posted on:28th Jan 2010, 11:16pm
 

Husna Behn

Agar meri kissi baat say app ki dil azari hohee tou mein app say maffi ka tablgar hoon oar agar Paroot sb nay bhee kuch kaha hai tou app baray dill ka mozhira kertay hohay maaf ker dain keh maaf kernay walah allah ko pasand hai.

Aik baat oar bohat mazrat k sath keh agar Paroot nay aisa wiasa kuch kaha hai tou app nay bhee bohat kuch kaha hai tou phir dono mein kia farrq hai.?????

Oar jahan tak Tahir ul Qadri sb ki baat hai oan kay kissi aqeedat mad nay oan kay pahoon ko chooma hai ya sajda kia hai tou yea kernay wala qasoorwar hai na keh iss bina per karooroon loaqoon ko burra bhalla kehna .......video ko edit ker k sirf aik pehloo say baat ka faisalah naheen hota.


Tahir ul Qadri nay150 say zahid islami books likhi hain kia kissi aik kitab mein app bata sakti hain keh onhoon yea likha hoo keh kissi insan ko sajda kerna jahiz hai ???


Ya Ail e Sunnat kay kissi bhee alim nay yea likha ho keh kissi insan ko sajda kerna jahiz hai tou mujjay zaroor bateay ga.......?????


Ya Ail Sunnat mein say kissi nay yea likha ho keh mazarat/kabroon ko sajda kerna jahiz hai tou bhee bateay ga??????


Kissi aik video woo bhee jiss ko edit ker kay oas ki tashheer say haqahiq naheen bantay.


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Posted on:28th Jan 2010, 11:39pm
 

aapka dost

me kisi behas me nhi perna chahti hu...................paroot ne jb ye nhi daikha k wo kisi female se bat krha haimena apna thread start kia wha b inko gussa agya mere sawal per hi shaid mene inko force nhi kia tha k mjy reply do ek bar nhi 2 bar nhi bar bar do..............mene inko force nhi kia mjy jo jawab chahye tha mjy my rizvi waterr ne dia tha paroot and waseeb bhai ne b..............but unme se kisi ne jazbato pan me wahabio ko gumrah aur mere parents aur handani aqaid k bare me meri zaat ko nishana nhi bnaya.................paroot se jo b baat ki inho ne ghalt hi matlab lia...................jb ek insaan hi negtive sochta hai hr baat ko to wha koi kb tk positive reply kre..................

mene tahar qadri k bare me isliye btaya k jb koi insaan kisi k dil me itna ghr kr jata hai to kia usko sajde krne lgta hai.........?

ne hi mera sawal itna paichida tha aur na hi itni behs krne ka mera koi mood tha................phir b ek firqa dosre firqay ko ghalt kehta mjy to takleef is bat ki hui k paroot ye baat nhi samjha k firqa koi b ho he to sbhi muslim............phir paroot ne insist kia k me jis firqay se tlq rkhti hu me usko show nhi krwana chahti..................is baat per b unho ne bate ki k manwana chaha k me kisis firqay se belong krti hu..............jistra wo krty he................wo nhi samjhy jo mena kha tha.............me female hu aur agr ek mard uth kr aurat se tameez se paish nhi ata to female ki kia koi ezat nhi hai................?

im sorry if i hurt u......
ALLAH HAFIZ
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Posted on:29th Jan 2010, 1:11am
 

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pata nahi yeh batain aap logon ko kahn se pata chalti hain k ehle hadees, wahabi aur tableeghi jamat walay kisi imam ko follow nahi kartay ya Nabi pak PBUH se mohabbat nahi rakhtay . jab tak hum kisi k sath na milain humain kaise ilm hosakta hae ? hasna ki baat se main bhi agree hon . aap ne khud hi kaha k aile sunnat walay mizaron pe sajda karnay ka nahi kehtay . zahir hae jab Nabi pak PBUH ne khud ko sajda karnay se mana kiya Sahaba karam ko tou kisi aur ko kiya sajda karna ya kyun karna lekin ap yeh bhi jantay hongay k log aisa hi kartay hain . mujhay kisi k aqeeda k baray main baat karnay ka koi haq nahi lekin jushne maild un Nabi k naam pe roads block kar k chanda ikattha karna thek hae ? rastay main khawateen ko rok kar un se paise mangna thek hae ? jushn walay din loud speakers par naatain paRhna is baat ki parwah kiye baghair k koi beemar ya takleef main hae aur tease horaha hae shor se . raaton ko speakers on rakhna mohallay walon ki nend ka khayal kiye baghair yeh bhi jaiz hae ? phir aise mulk main chiraghan karna jahan 16 karore awaam ghurbat ki chaki main pis rahi hae kiya aik din k liye itna kharch affordable hae ? jahan logon k marnay k baad dafan honay ki jagah nahi k qabristan bharay paray hain kiya wahan meelon muraba zameen par aik mizaar bana kar wahan tafreehi maqam k tor par jana yeh bhi jaiz hae ? agar Nabi pak PBUH ki yehi taleemat hain aur doosron ko tang kar k hi jalse jaloos karna aur mohabbat ka izhar hota hae tou i,m sorry to say hum log aisi mohabbat waqai hi nahi kartay . doosron k aib gin,na hi agar zindagi ka maqsad hae tou sorry again k humari zindaqi main yeh maqsad bhi shamil nahi . jashne maild k din saray mulk main jo numaishi program chalta hae roads sajaye jatay hain kiya ghareeb bachon k parents aisi koi bhi cheez unhain provide kar saktay hain koi aisa khilona lekar de sktay hain ? phir agar bachay un se zid karain tou woh kahan se layen ? kiya yeh kisi ko ehsase kamtri main mubtila karna nahi hae ? apnay ghar walon k liye khana hae ya nahi mizaron pe chaRhhaway charh,hana lazmi hae . hae na ? agar yeh sab hi deen hae aur mukamal deen hae tou sorry hum is main se kisi aik bhi baat ko follow nahi kartay . abb kufar ka fatwa aap lagayen ya na lagayen aap ki marzi .
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Posted on:29th Jan 2010, 2:49am
 

Jazak Allah Maryam

kash k 'hamaray' dil.ouN maiN otar jaa.ay 'teri' baat....
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Posted on:30th Jan 2010, 10:49am
 

Hazoor SAWW kay Melad na mannay waloon ki danishmanda batain.


OBJECTION 1*"subah ka nikla jaloos shaam tak chala rawaaN dawaaN rahta hai.....doam iss saray amal k dauran lakhoun logoun ka saRkoun par namazain adaa karnay ka koi imkaan nahi hotaa...iss dauraan saray raastay band hotay hain jiss say mareezouN mosaafiroun ko takleef hoti hai eyc etc


Yehni agar jaloos kuch dair k lihay hota tou phir kohee baat naheen thi woo qabil e bardashat hota balkeh yea ammal kabil e tehseen hota oar agar iss jaloos mein namaz ka aitmam bhee hoo tou kia hee baat hai....tou inn ki itlah k lihay arz hai iss jaloosoon ki akseriat ka waqat itna naheen hota oar agar hota hai tou kareebi masajid mein namaz ka aitmam bhee hota hai.


Laikin aik minute k lihay maan bhee lain tou yea aik aisa jaloos q naheen nikaltay jiss mein namaz ka aitmam bhee ho oar woo subh say sham tak na hoo yehni jo qabahatain inko oas mein nazar aati hai oan ko khattam ker k khoushi mana laitay.


OBJECTION 2 *Jushn walay din loud speakers par naatain paRhna is baat ki parwah kiye baghair k koi beemar ya takleef main hae aur tease horaha hae shor se . raaton ko speakers on rakhna mohallay walon ki nend ka khayal kiye baghair yeh bhi jaiz hae ? 

Yehni agar naatain loudspeaker per na parhi jati tou phir iss amal mein kohee qabahat nahee tou phir tou tableeghi jamat /deobandi,ail e hadees ko bhee melad mana chaehay bus woo yea kertay keh woo natain melad per baghair speaker kay parhaty magar yea tou siray say parhaty hi naheen.

Iss tarah kay oar hazaroon batain hain yea wajah naheen hai assal baat hai mohabbat e Rasoolsaww ki jo kissi kay naseeb mein hoti hai oar kissi mein naheen hoti.
 
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Posted on:1st Feb 2010, 2:15am
 

aapkadost bhai

sirf naat parhna hi mohabbat ki alamat hae ? Nabi pak sallalaho alaihay wasalam ki seerate tayabah ka dars kyun nahi diya jata . mohabbat sirf woh hoti hae jis ko roads pe nikal kar show kiya jaye ? ghar main is mohabbat ka izhar nahi hosakta ? khushi manana bohat achi baat hae lekin is khayal k sath k koi aur is khushi se takleef main mubtila tou nahi horaha . above reply main maine apni mohabbat ki taraf se koi dawa bhi nahi kiya . main tou is qabil bhi nahi k is baray main kuch likhon lekin kisi ko janay baghair kisi ko Nabi pak sallalaho alaihay wasllam ki mohabbat se kharij kar dena kahan ka insaf hae . jitnay bhi sect hain aur khud ko sect se relate karna  pasand kartay hain ya nahi har muslim ka yeh emaan hae k Allah pak ki mohabbat aur raza Nabi pak sallalaho alaihay wasallam ki mohabbat aur raza k baghair mumkin hi nahi . jin ko Nabi pak ki Mohabbat se sirf isliye kharij kiya gaya hae k woh mailad nahi kartay tou aap ko yeh bhi bata don k deobandi, ahle hadees tableeghi jamat walay sab apni majalis main Nabi pak sallalaho alaihay wasallam ki seerat aur hayat e tayyaba bayan kartay hain AAp saww ki zindagi ko apni life main impliment karna mohabbat hae na k saal main aik din tareef kar lena . bohat practical hokar socha jaye to yeh baat wazeh hae k kisi bhi sect aur group main sab perfect nahi hotay isliye sirf kisi aik ya kuch logon se kabhi koi ghalti ho bhi tou woh pooray group pe impliment nahi hoti . aap ki different post se yeh zahir hota hae k aap aik positive thinking rakhtay hain aur knowledge bhi . isliye aap se yeh kahongi k agar aap kisi imam ki pehchan k bajay logon ko Allah ki pehchan karwayen tou yeh zyada achi baat hae . kisi bhi bazurg ne kabhi apni wah wah ka dars nahi diya balkay Allah k deen ki hi tableegh ki hae .
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Posted on:1st Feb 2010, 3:46am
 

73 firqay???

quran o hadees wazah taur par islam maiN firqay baazi ko manaa kia gaya hai aur iss baat par zor dia gaya hai k Allah ki Rassi (Quran n hadith) ko mazbooti say thaam lo aur firqouN main nah taqseem ho.

taham ahaadees main iss baat ki peshan.goyee bhi ki gayee hai k islam maiN 73 firqay banengay aur iss main 72 firqay jahannami hongay... sirf firqah jannat maiN jaayegaa... poochaa gayaa... woh kaunsaa firqah hogaa? jawaab milaa.... jo Quran aur hadees say juRa rahegaa....... (mafhoom)

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