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Salman Roshdi Oar Ismail Dehlvi

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AppkaDost Group: Members  Joined: 18th Jul, 2009  Topic: 24  Post: 281  Age:  37  
Posted on:26th Apr 2010, 11:33pm
 

Salman Roshdi Oar Ismail Dehlvi

Aik Thread mein Mr.Paroot likhtay hain keh "Molana Ismail Dehlvi" apni kitab Sarat e mosteem mein likhtay hain "Namaz mein Hazor saww ka khial aanay say behter hai keh Insan ko Ghadhay oar oont ka khial aajai......Nahozbillah

http://www.forum.noorclinic.com/thread.php?topic=18863&start=20

Kissi Ismail delvi kay lover moderator nay yea discussion edit ker di takeh sach ko chopia ja sakay...meri mohterm moderator say request hai keh iss tarah say baat naheen banti agar app ko ismail dehlvi pasand hain oar oan ko defend kerna chahtay hain tou samnay aaker dalahil say bat karain nakeh apni powers ka misuse karain.

Molana Dehlvi apnay app ko sirf muslman kehtay thay apnay app ko kissi bhee firqay ka naheen mantay thay haan albatah arab kay molana abdul wahab say motahsar zaroor thay oar oan ki books ki translation "Al toheed" ki farsi translation onhoon nay hi ki thi.

Agar ajj humhain molana Dehlvi per discussion naheen kernay di jarahi tou kia aanay walay doar mein salman roshdi bhee mairay mohterm moderator ka hero hoga keh above reference kay baad Kia Mr Dehlvi kissi salman roshdi say kum hain?

Humara eman itna kamzoor hogia hai keh hum Hazoor saww ki ghustakhi kernay waloon ko tou  pasand kertay magar ghustakhi kernay waloon per lanat kernay waloon ko moderatornote daitay hain ....hum kiss moon say muslman kehnay kay haqdar hain?

paroot Group: Members  Joined: 23rd Nov, 2008  Topic: 66  Post: 1660  Age:   
Posted on:26th Apr 2010, 5:01pm
 

Ismail Dehelve

Main ne tu Haji imdadullah aur Ashraf Ali thanvi k with reference aqwal coat keye the leken usse bhi delet kar deya gaaya...

aur ab islmai dehelve ka

es per tu main ne phele he kaha tha k yeh forum sale ho chuka hai.. kese khas firqe ke hathoo..

Mere baat sach sabit hogayeee. !!!

AppkaDost Group: Members  Joined: 18th Jul, 2009  Topic: 24  Post: 281  Age:  37  
Posted on:26th Apr 2010, 6:25pm
 

Yea kaisay ulma hain ?

kia app meri malomat k liay Haji imdadullah oar Ashraf Ali Thanvi ki woo batain dobara paste ker saktay hain,jo kuch ismail dhelvi nay likha hai woo tou kohee Qadyani ya non muslim he likh sakta hai ,aisi napak zaban wo bhee humaray peyyaray aaqa saww k ghilaf... ghustakhi e rasool saww ki saza moat hai.

Yea kaisay ulma hain jo deen ko tou chahtay hain magar azmat e mustafa saww ko tasleem naheen kertay ?

paroot Group: Members  Joined: 23rd Nov, 2008  Topic: 66  Post: 1660  Age:   
Posted on:26th Apr 2010, 6:25pm
 

Ismail Dehelvi ka fatwa

Ismail Dehelvi apne kitab SIRAT-E-MUSTAQEEM mein lekhte

hai:
"Agar namaz ke halat mein Sarkar Sallallaho Alahe

Wasallam ka kahayal aii tu ess se behter hai k Gadhe,

Ount, beel aur degaar janwaroo ka khayal aii tu zeyada

behter hai baneesbat ess k k uss Aqa ka khayal aii jes k

hum ghulam hai".

Ma'azallah Summa Ma'azallah essa bad aqeeda tu bare se bara jugaree sharabe musalmaan bhi nahi ho sakta jesa ismail dehelvi tha...

ess Gustakhe Rasool ke ess ebaarat se andaza lagaya ja

sakta hai k Wahabi firqa ketna Ashiq-e-Rasool hai jo ess

ke taleemat per amaal kar raha hai aur esse shaks ko

apne leye rehbare hidayat samaj raha hai jo k wajibul

qatal ho...

paroot Group: Members  Joined: 23rd Nov, 2008  Topic: 66  Post: 1660  Age:   
Posted on:26th Apr 2010, 6:26pm
 

100 soonar ke 1 loohar ke

1 qaida hamesha yaad rakhe jo Abdul Wahab najdi k peche chale gaa chahe kese bhi angle se amal se aqeede se ya uss k mureeden k peche chalee ga wo agee jaa kar ismail dehelvi nahi tu uss ke nasal jesa he banee ga

 

paroot Group: Members  Joined: 23rd Nov, 2008  Topic: 66  Post: 1660  Age:   
Posted on:26th Apr 2010, 6:38pm
 

Molvi Vs Molvi

MOLVI   VS   MOLVI

Haji Imdad Ullah:
“Ibad Allah ko Ibad Ur Rasool kehe sakte hain” (Samim Imdadiya, pg:135)

Ashraf Ali Thanvi:
“Ali Buksh, Hussain Buksh aur Abdul Nabi rakhna shirk ke fharist  mein shameel hai”(behisti Zewar, pg:45, jd:1)

Mureed ne peer ko kafir kar deya…

paroot Group: Members  Joined: 23rd Nov, 2008  Topic: 66  Post: 1660  Age:   
Posted on:26th Apr 2010, 6:42pm
 

Molvi Vs Molvi 2

Aqeeda of Haji Imdad Ullah:
“ Tum ho aye Noor E Mohammad khas Mehboob Khuda Hind mein ho Nayab hazrat Mohammad Mustafa Tum Madadgar, madad imdad ko phir khof kya”  (Samim Imdadiya, pg:84)

Aqeeda of Ismail Dehlvi:
“ Tuje siwa mange jo geero se madad Felhaqeeqat hai wo mushrik Usshad ”(Tazkeer ul ikhwaan, pg:343 , 83 by Ismail Dehlivi).

paroot Group: Members  Joined: 23rd Nov, 2008  Topic: 66  Post: 1660  Age:   
Posted on:30th Apr 2010, 7:46pm
 

kon hai Tazeem k qabil

Ab har muslamaan yeh decide kar sakta hai k kon hai tazeem k qabil yeh naam neehad ulama jenhoo ne etne bare bare gustakhee ke jo iman ko khatam kar k kufur k ghat utaar dete hai ya wo tazeem k haqdaar hai jen ke shan mein esse gustakhee karne ke enn badmazhaboo ne jurrat kee.
paroot Group: Members  Joined: 23rd Nov, 2008  Topic: 66  Post: 1660  Age:   
Posted on:4th May 2010, 6:40pm
 

Kya Hua

esse leye hum sunni kehte hai k soch samaj kar boola kar jen aqeedo per wahabi shirk k fatwee dete hai wo aqeede tu khud wahabioo ke thee................... :)
ch Babar Group: Members  Joined: 15th Jul, 2007  Topic: 32  Post: 1873  Age:  40  
Posted on:7th May 2010, 7:12am
 

Aap ka dost

jis muqaddas mission pe Hazrat Paroot sahab lagay howay hain aor eik khas maslik/firqay k Ulema ko aaye din bura bhala kaha jata hae aor aap ye samjhtay hain k in sahab ka aisa karna bilkul theek hae to phir meray mohatrem dost mujay ye bataye k aisa salook kisi eik kahs maslik k Ulema k sath he kyun ???? main ap se eik sawal karta hon kya ap ye bardasht karain gay k is forum pe "Imam Khumeni marhoom" ko is tarah discuss kiya jaye k un ko bura bhala kaha jaye, un pe kufer k fatway lagaye jayen,  ???? kya Paroot ye bardahst kare ga k "Aala Hazrat" ko qabar main se nikal k is forum pe la khara kiya jaye aor un ka post martem kiya jaye ???

Jis tarah k referance Paroot aaye din yaahn pe pesh karta hae main bhi us k maslik/firqay k ulema k baray main aisi bohat si baatain bayan kar sakta hon phir Paroot ki bardasht bhi dekh letay hain .

ch Babar Group: Members  Joined: 15th Jul, 2007  Topic: 32  Post: 1873  Age:  40  
Posted on:7th May 2010, 7:24am
 

Fitna kon hae???

is forum pe aaye din firqa warana topic kon shuru karta hae??? doosray maslik/firqay k logon ko badmazhab, gumrah, kafir, shetan kis ne kaha ???? apnay mukhalif members ko tazheek bharay andaz main mukhatib kon karta hae ??? doosray maslik k woh Ulema jo fot ho chukay hain un ko galyan kon deta hae ???

yahan isee forum pe main ne eik baar Imam Khumeni ko bura bhala kaha Imam Khumeni se muhabbat karnayw alay member ne meri maa ka rishta Osama bin Laden se jorra ....paroot bohat khushqismat ha ejis ko reply main kabhi aisay alfaz sun'nay ko nahi milay .

Jannat ka certificate na Paroot k Ulema k paas hae na hamaray Ulema k pas, Paroot agar kisi k Ulema ko gali de ga to us k Ulema kaisay mehfooz hon gay ???

Bewaqoof Group: Members  Joined: 19th Sep, 2010  Topic: 264  Post: 4456  Age:  39  
Posted on:8th May 2010, 11:09pm
 

dosre mazhab walo ka ehteram kare

re: "is forum pe aaye din firqa warana topic kon shuru karta hae??? doosray maslik/firqay k logon ko badmazhab, gumrah, kafir, shetan kis ne kaha ?"

apne mazhab ki jetni chahe tareef kare koi etraz nahi, lekin sab se guzarish hai keh baraye meharbani kisi doosre mazhab/firqa aur os ke maanne wale ko badmazhab, gumrah, kafir, shetan na kahe.
Diplomate Group: Members  Joined: 18th Oct, 2009  Topic: 53  Post: 3436  Age:  37  
Posted on:8th May 2010, 1:58pm
 

Asal Topic...!!

"kia aanay walay doar mein salman roshdi bhee mairay mohterm moderator ka hero hoga "

jab bat asal topic sy hat jaye (jaisa yahan ho raha hey) to phir mukhtlif qisam ki behas main parr jati hey aur uss ka nateeja issi trah niklta hey ..jaisy shan-e-Nabi (s.a.a.w) ki gustakhi main salman rushdi maloon ny kiya uss ny b islam k mukhtlif masaalilk ki apis main shdeed mukhalfat ko dhaikhty hoowey inhi islam k thekedaroon ki tareekhi kutab sy khawaly akathey kiye aur pur tazheekkitab likh di

apis k bahmi ikhtalafat main uljey howy inn muslims aur inn k ulma ko phir b aqal na ai aur inn sab islam k thekedaron ny uss maloon ki tazheek amaiz kitab pr koi radd-e-amal dikhany ki bajaye sirf apny jazbati khiyalaat ka izhar karny par hi iktafa kiya..

Taham aik mard-e-haq ny uss maloon k khilaf wajaub-ul-qatal ka fatwa diya...laiken inn commercial molvioon ko itni tofeeq b na hoi..aaj agar hum apny aslaf ki likhi hoi shan-e-risalat main islamic tareekh main koi radd-o-baddal karny ki ahliyat ya istd'aad nahi rkhtey to koi bat nahi ..hum apni safoon main itthad to paida kar saktey hain na k jis ki badolat phir kisi maloon sulman rushdi ko shan-e-rasalat main gustakhi karny ki jurat na ho saky...!!!!!
AppkaDost Group: Members  Joined: 18th Jul, 2009  Topic: 24  Post: 281  Age:  37  
Posted on:10th May 2010, 6:53am
 

Ch.Babar Sb

Sab say pehlay tou app ka shukeria keh app apni rai di.Mujjay Naheen maloom tha keh app oan ka fan hain.app kay jabzat majrooh hohay iss ka mujjay afsoos hy magar mazrat k sath sach tou yea hy keh oan ki above statement parh ker meray jazbat bhee shadeed majrooh hohay hai.

Yea app ka farz banta hai keh app iss ko explain karain.

Baqi jahan tak baat hy Ahmed Raza Khan sb Ya Imam Khumaini ki tou forum hazir hy app with reference kohee bhee topic start ker saktay hain,jinhoon nay app ko galiaN di woo kabil e mozamat hain.

Magar baat reference kay sath ki jai oar maqsad information daina oar information laina maqsood ho.

 

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Posted on:10th May 2010, 7:14am
 

Bewakoof

well said by you "apne mazhab ki jetni chahe tareef kare koi etraz nahi, lekin sab se guzarish hai keh baraye meharbani kisi doosre mazhab/firqa aur os ke maanne wale ko badmazhab, gumrah, kafir, shetan na kahe."

Badmazhab ,gumrah oar kafir,shaitan na kaha jai iss kay sath app yea bhee kehain baat baat per dosroon ko moshrik oar her baat ko shirk bhee na kahain q keh forum kay kuch bohat fazil dostoon ki yahee practice hy jin kay hathoon mein shirk kay fatway ki talwar hy.

 

AppkaDost Group: Members  Joined: 18th Jul, 2009  Topic: 24  Post: 281  Age:  37  
Posted on:10th May 2010, 7:16am
 

Diplomate

Well said by Diplomat
saad awais Group: Members  Joined: 24th Jan, 2010  Topic: 3  Post: 64  Age:  30  
Posted on:10th May 2010, 9:53am
 

SALAM

bahiyo app yaha behas karty rehty hain jis ka koi faida nai dosry logo appko enjoy karty hain or dekho app logo ko keya melta hain main 1 bat karo ga yaha ager koi hamry nabi ki sahna main guhsakhi kary ga tu wo koi b membar nai bardasht kary gea bas ye bat zheen main rakhy bajy ye kahy wo wahbi or wo soni hain or wo sheeya hain jo jis ka maslaq hain os ka hain bas jo bari bat hain koi b hamry nabi k kehlaf bat na kary or na hi ham sony   keyo main pehly hi jo waqyat ho cuhky hain dunaya main salman rushid k or dosry mulko k main gussy sy bahra hoa ho or main ALLAH sy dua karta ho k mujy himat dy tu mai salman rushdi jesy malon koh maro ga inshALLAH  bas ye bat zheen main rakhy k ham ye baty nai bardasht kar gey inshALLAH
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Posted on:10th May 2010, 11:58pm
 

Saad awais

V.Well said
ch Babar Group: Members  Joined: 15th Jul, 2007  Topic: 32  Post: 1873  Age:  40  
Posted on:11th May 2010, 7:32am
 

AapkaDost

eik main he nahi Pak o Hind main lakhon log Hazrat Shah Ismail Shaheed (R.A) k aqeedatmand hain, Harat Shah Ismail Shaheed (R.A) ilam aor taqwa main meray Imam hain meay rahber hain. mazrat k sath aap se kahon ga k aap ne ziadti ye ki k aap ne beghair tehqeeq kiye Paroot jaisay member ki di hoi statment pe Hazrat Ismail Shaheed (R.A) ko Salman Rushdi k sath tashbeeh de di.kisi bhi maslik ya firqay k kisi aalim e deen ki kahi hoi baat pe behes ho sakti hae laikin Paroot ne jis tarah eik khas maslik k Ulema ko targe kiya howa hae aor har roz ek nai fitnay k sath koi topic shuru kar deta hae ye forum ki koi khidmat nahi hae aor na koi ilmi behes hae.

AppkaDost Group: Members  Joined: 18th Jul, 2009  Topic: 24  Post: 281  Age:  37  
Posted on:12th May 2010, 1:53pm
 

Choudhry Babar Sb

MeiN manta hooN hy keh mein nay app kay rahbar o imam ki shan mein ghustakhi ki hy magar yea bhee tou daikhain keh onhoon nay kiss shakhsiat ki shan mein gostakhi ki hy..humaray peyaray nabi saww per kiss ko taji di....oan ki yea statement parah ker kia app moaj say yea tohaqa rukhtay hain keh mein bhee app kay rehbar o imam ki shan mein qaseeday parahooN ga !!!!!

App say omeed thi keh app oan ki iss statement ko explain karain gay magar app nay aik ravahiti shakhsiat parasti ka mozahira kertay hohay oan ki shan oar azmat kay gon hi gai hain.

 

 

 

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