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Wazifa Nad e Ali: Kya Menses Days Mai Parh Saktay Hain?

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Posted on:3rd Aug 2011, 9:04pm
 

Wazifa Nad e Ali: Kya Menses Days Mai Parh Saktay Hain?

salam to every one
meray 2 questions hain and mujay umeed hai k mujay tasali baskh reply miley gayain because yahan bohat taleneted people ais forum main humari help ker rahey hain.
Marriage ke liye dua kis time aur ketni perhni hai?
1) phela question mera yeh hai k main nay love marriage k liay dua nambul ka net per perha hai lekn wahan per quantity nai likhi nad na hi yeh likha hai k kis time perhna hai, plz agar kisi ko aiska pata hai plz reply me.

Kya menses ke days mai wazifa nad e ali read ker saktay hai?
2) Second question yeh hai k aik wazifa jo 40 days tak perhna hai wo nad e ali hai aur aus main time ka nai bataya gaya hum jis time marzi perh saktey hain lkn wo 40 days tak perhna hai ab mera question yeh hai k kya main wo menses k days main perh sakti hoon coz wo namaz k sath nai hai jab dil chayan perh sakti hoon lkn menses k dinoon main kya kerrooon plz reply meeeeeeeeeee
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Posted on:4th Aug 2011, 6:58pm
 

Wazifa Nad e Ali

wazifa Nad e Ali kis moqa per parhi jaati hai. iss wazifa mai kia parhi jaati hai. hamaray ghar mai iss qisim ke kisi wazeefa ka zikir nahi suna. yeh kis firqa/maslak ka wazeefa hai?
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Posted on:4th Aug 2011, 8:48pm
 

Wazifa Nad e Ali

yeh wazifa Shiya firqa may parha jata hey
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Posted on:4th Aug 2011, 11:36pm
 

laila

ager aap ko NAD E ALI yad hai zubani to aap perah sakty hain kisi kitab per se dekh ker nhn ya kitab hath main bhi nhn pakar saktin aap in day smain

alirajput

NAD E ALI un alfaz ki base per aik wazeefa banaya gaya hai jo alfaz as riwayat Nabi SAW ne irshad fermaai thay jab ghazwa kheber main foaj ki kaman Ali RA ko di thi
yeh wazeefa shiyat main perha jata hai
kiun k un k nazdeek
LA FATAH ILLA ALI
LA SAIF ILLA ZULFIQAR
yeh un ka aqeeda hai
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Posted on:5th Aug 2011, 10:14am
 

alirajput

pehli bat k Nabi SAW ne sab tareeqon se namaz perhai is liyay nhn k kisi aik tareeqay ko pakar ker dooseray tareeqay walon ko ghalat sabit kiya jai jesa k humaray sab firqon walay kertay hain

is k ilawa Aap SAW ne sab tareeqon se namaz perha ker AFZAL tareeqa bhi bata diya k yeh sab tareeqay sahi hain lakin AFZAL yeh hai jesay k namaz k auqat ki limit k liyay AAP SAW ne AWAL WAQT se AAKHIR waqt tak jamaat kerai lakin yeh bhi fermaya k AWAL waqt ki namaz afzal hai lakin AAKHIR waqt tak namaz perhi ja sakty hai
humaray han yeh hai k jo jis waqt perhat ahai usi ko sahi manta hai aur baqiyon ki namaz ko hi nhn manta
jab dawa hai k sunnat per amal kerna hai to kiun baqi ghalat aur sirif aik sahi???

jahan tak bat hai is wazeefay ki to yeh dua nhn balkay aik pukar thi jo Aap SAW ne us din ki thi yani Ali RA ko bulaya tha aur FLAGE ub k hawalay kiya tha
kisi ko bulanay ya pukarnay ko arabic main NAD kehtay hain yani awaz dena

usi se isay NAD E ALI ya yani ALI RA ko pukarnay walay alfaz

is k ilawa jab Nabi SAW ne Ali RA ko pukara to Aap RA zinda aur hayat thay
aur aik mission un k hawalay kiya tha
shiyat yeh kehty hai k ager Ali RA na hotay to khebar fatah na hota yani Nabi SAW ne Ali RA ko apni madad yani help k liyay pukara tha isi liyay woh bhi Ali RA ko help k liyay pukartay hain
yehi bat sgriyat k lehaz se ghalat hai

hawala yeh diay jata hai k Nabi SAW k wisal k baad nama e istasqa k liyay Aap SAW k chacha ABBAS RA ko sath liya gaya aur jab dua kerwaai gai to alfaz yeh thay k AY ALLAH is se pehlay teray Nabi SAW tujh se dua kertay thay aaj woh hum main nhn to hum un k chacha ko sath laai hain in ki berkat se humari dua ko qabool ferma
lakin kahin sabit nhn k kisi bhi sahaba ne kabhi bhi Nabi SAW ki qaber e mubarik pe rja ker aisi dua ki ho

even Ali RA ne bhi aur na hi Ali RA k baad un ki aulad main se kisi ne Ali RA k liyay yeh NAD E ALI perha ho tareekh gawah hai is bat ki

ab yeh aqeedat main jo kuch banaya ja rah ahai is ki kya sanad hai yeh bananay walay aur mananay walay hi janay

main to aik bat janta hun k

MERAY LIYAY SIRIF ALLAH KAFI HAI
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Posted on:5th Aug 2011, 4:12pm
 

re : Naad e Ali as

Naad e Ali as faqat aik dua k tor par paRhee jati hai , Nabi kareem saww k "naad e Ali as" paRhney ka waqeya shia rejaal ul hadees k mutabiq zaeef hai , lehaza naad e Ali as agar paRhi bhi jati hai to bator "dua" paRhi jati hai , asal madadgaar khuda wand ki zaat e muqaddas hai , ahl e tashayyo rasool saww aur aeimma se bator wasila ya bila wasta madad mangtey haiN asal madadgaar beshak khuda ki zaat hai , aur zaat e khuda ko choR kar kaheiN aur janey wala mushrik hai ;

naad e Ali as just aik dua k tor par paRhi jati hai , lehaza menses meiN paRhney meiN bazaat e khud , koi harj nahiN.
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Posted on:5th Aug 2011, 4:26pm
 

Wehshi braadar : hazrat Abbas ra wali rivayat bukhari meiN mojood hai ; wasila jaiez hai

hawala yeh diay jata hai k Nabi SAW k wisal k baad nama e istasqa k liyay Aap SAW k chacha ABBAS RA ko sath liya gaya aur jab dua kerwaai gai to alfaz yeh thay k AY ALLAH is se pehlay teray Nabi SAW tujh se dua kertay thay aaj woh hum main nhn to hum un k chacha ko sath laai hain in ki berkat se humari dua ko qabool ferma
lakin kahin sabit nhn k kisi bhi sahaba ne kabhi bhi Nabi SAW ki qaber e mubarik pe rja ker aisi dua ki ho

braadar e azeezam , yeh rivayat saheeh bukhari meiN mojood hai alhamdolillah koi manghaRat qissa nahiN kitaab e hadees al bukhari ko paRhney ki toufeeq khuda ta'aala apko dey :)

Bukhari jild 1 , abwaab ul istasqa , baab 637 , hadith 953 :

"Ans bin maalik rivayat kartey haiN k jab log qehet ka shikaar hotey to umar ibn khattab , abbas ibn e abdul mutallib ra k tavassul (wasila) se dua kartey aur kehtey , Aey Allah ham tere pas rasool saww ko wasila pesh kartey thay to tu hameiN seraab kar deta tha , ab ham tere rasool saww k chacha ka wasila laaey haiN hameiN seraab farma dey ; ravi bayan karta hai pani bars paRta"

Favaied ul hadees :

iss hadees se waazeh hai k wasila se dua mangna bilkul jaiez hai balkeh sunnat bhi hai aur khuda isko pasand karta hai , neez qabooliyat e dua ka zariya bhi hai ... wasiley k havaley se mazeed kayi hadeeseiN haiN filhal yehi kafi hai :)

lehaza Naad e Ali as paRhna (ba qasad e wasila) bilkul jaiez hai balkeh khuda se madad milney ka zariya bhi hai ...
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Posted on:6th Aug 2011, 7:00am
 

ozone

main ne riwayet per shak nhn kiya
lakin bat yeh hai k waseela ais aho jo ap k liyay dua kersakay yani zinda jesay Abbas RA Nabi SAW k chacha sath thay sahaba k
Naad e ali main Ali RA ko waseela ban aker allah se dua ki jati hain
jab Quran main Allah khud fermatay hain woh MUSALMAN KI SHAH RAG SE QAREEB HAIN to is ka matlab k jab dua insan k halaq main hoti hai abhi to Allah sun letay hain us k baad bhi kisi waseelay ki zaruret kiun???

is k ilawa aik sawal k hum sirif dunyawi kamon k liyay hi waseelay talash kertay hain aakhrat k liyay nhn
kiun k hum jantay hain k aakhrat main sirif Nabi SAW hi waseela hon gay jo k us waqt mojood hon k Allah k samnay

BAAD AL MOAT TASREEF ka falsfa waseelay main nhn aata
koi aik riwayat nhn milti jis main sahaba keram RA ya khulafa rashdeen RA main se koi bhi Nabi SAW ki qabr e mubarak per aya ho aur un se waseela bana ker dua ki ho

ager naad e ali main Ali RA ka naam nhn to yeh dua hai aur mangi ja sakti hai lakin ager is main Ali RA ka nam is terah hai k jesay un se dua ki ja rahi hai k aap Allah se yeh kam kerwain to meray point se sahi nhn
main apni raai ya nazriya kisi per impose nhn kerta sirif biyan kerta hun

AAGAY ALLAH BEHTER JANTA HAI
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Posted on:6th Aug 2011, 7:24am
 

WEHSHI Bhai

1.apki wazahat apni jagah durust hogi, magar naad.e.Ali k hawalay say ap aik ghair mustanad o ghair motalliq fard ho.

2. yeh shia firqay ki aik makhsoos dua hai, woh issay jiss tarah chahaiN parhaiN, ap aur maiN iss baray main kuch nahi kahsaktay

3. "Ali" Allah k 99 naamouN main say aik naam hai. "Hazrat Ali RA" k naam say iss "yaksaaniyat" ka "faidah" oThaatay howay ... baaz log inhaiN mix-up bhi kardetay hain... jab meray aik shia colleague nay yeh kaha k "ham" main aik aisa "group" bhi hai (sooDani) jo "hazrat Ali RA" ko "KHoda" maantaa hai to mujhay yeh baat baRi ajeeb see lagi...magar pichlay dinoun aik shia aalimay deen nay tv par kahaa k "noseri firqah" hazrat Ali ko "khoda" maanta haim jiska ilzaam "ham" par lagaya jata hai .... can you explain these matter. maiN to mazeed confused hogaya houn

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Posted on:6th Aug 2011, 10:50am
 

Wehshi bro :) :- Falsafa e wasila

baad az marg wasiley k silsiley meiN kayee ahadees warid hui haiN bukhari ki aik hadees jiska mafhoom hai k "sahabi e rasool saww ne baad az marg e hazrat abu talib , unka shair paRha to phooT phooT kar barish barsi"

agar aqli wa mantaqi tor par wasiley ko dekha jaye to yeh bilkul ba mutabiq-e-aaeen e khuda hai ;
nizaam e khudawand hai k usney qaadir e mutlaq hotey huey har cheez meiN wasila apnaya aur wasila ko pasand farmaya , khuda ne apko peda kiya to apke waldain ko wasila banaya , khuda ne iss deen ko ham tak pohanchaya wasiley (nabi) k tawassut se (though Allah qaadir e mutlaq hai) , khuda apna peghaam nahi pohnchata tamam insanoN tak bila wasiley k , hatta k khuda aam insanoN se bina wasiley k baat nahiN karta "aey nabi keh dijiye mominoN se" ;

lehaaza khuda ki zaat ham insanoN se bina wasiley k kalaam nahiN karta to ham uss azeem zaat se bina wasiley kalaam kyuNkar kareiN aur kyuN wasiley ko najaiez samjheiN ??

beshak khuda hamari shahrag se ziada qareeb hai lekin kyuNkar khuda ham meiN aur khuda meiN wasila (nabi) banaata hai ?? kya wo hameiN khud deen nahi samjhaa sakta , beshak wo qaadir e mutlaq hai aur samjhaa sakta hai lekin khuda hameiN yeh dars deta hai k tum jab bhi muj tak aana chaho to mere nabi saww se rujoo karo k meiN ne usey apna wasila qarar diya hai ...

lehaaza mantaqi tor par wasila bilkul jaiez aur khuda tak pohanchney ka zariya hai ;;;

Wallah ul Haadi..

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Posted on:6th Aug 2011, 11:00pm
 

myrizvi : nuseri khaarij az islaam ast

jesa k meiN arz kar chuka hooN naad e ali as shia kutub e hadees se sabit nahiN hai balkeh chand "zaeef" ahadees meiN warid hui hai lehaaza isko agar paRha bhi jata hai to dua aur wasiley k tor par paRha jata hai , aur paRhna bhi chahye ..

hazrat Ali as ko khuda manney wala firqa "nuseriyat" kehlaata hai ; nuseri khud ko tashayyo se mansoob kartey haiN lekin inka tashayyo aqaied wa islam se koi talluq nahiN jis tarah qadiyani khud ko musalman kehte haiN lekin islam se kharij haiN , balkeh shia kutub e arb'aa meiN se aik kitaab "mann laa yahzer al faqih" meiN kitaab k musannif siqqatul islaam ustaad ul ulama shaikh sadooq (ar) ne hazrat ali as ki zaat meiN "ghulv" karney waley par khuda ki lanat ki hai ....
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Posted on:6th Aug 2011, 11:16pm
 

myrizvi

pehli bat to yeh k koi bhi bat islam k hawalay se ho to hum lataluq nhn reh saktay kiun k jab hum ghermuslim logon se bat kertay hain to un ko yeh nhn keh saktay k yeh shiya ki dua hai kiun k jab sab musalman hain to koi cheez alag nhn ho sakti

dooseri muazrat k ALI Allah k sifati namon main shamil nhn kisi bhi terah

sodani hi nhn bohat se pakistani bhi is firqay se mutaliq hain jo Ali RA ko Allah mantay hain aur riwayat detay hain k jab Nabi SAW meraaj per gai to SIDRA TUL MUNTAHA se agay jahan koi nhn ja sakta Aap SAW gai to Allah se rubaru mulaqat hui aur NOOR k hal amain se aik hath baher aya aur Nabi SAW se musafa kiya us hath main wohi ANGOOTHI thi jo Ali RA k hath main hoti thi

aik aur riwyat hai k meraj main Nabi SAW ne apni angoothi aik lion k munh main dal di
subah Ali RA k hath main wohi angoothi dekhi

aik aur bat k Bukhari ya SAHAAI SITTA main jo bhi ahadees hain un main se direct ahadees kitni haiin , direct RIAWAYAAT kitni hain , aur sirif riwayaat kitni hain aaj tak kisi ne in ki takhsees nhn ki

ager aap Bukhari ka BAB E GHUSAL perhain to us main ibtidaa main aik hadees hai k
jab koi kisi k ghusal se bachay huway pani se ghusal keray ga to usay paki hasil na ho gi
(mafhoom)
us k neechay aik riwayat hai k
UME SALMA RA fermati hain k Nabi SAW ghusal ferma ker chalay jatay thay to main un k bachay huway pani se ghusal ker leti thi
( mafhoom)
ab aap batain k in dono ko hadees manain ? ya riwayat aur jab koi gher muslim i sbaray poochay to usay kya jawab den

yeh aik bat hai aisay kai muqamat hain ahadees ki kutab main jahan problem hoti hai

hum shiya sunni y akisi ko bhi alag nhn keh saktay jab kisi gher muslim se bat kerain to
jab sab musalman hain to
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Posted on:6th Aug 2011, 2:50pm
 

myrizvi

muazrat chahta hun k bala jawab main ghalti ki k yeh kaha k Ali Allah ka sifati naam nhn

lakin naam hai AL ALIYUN hai
aur jab bhi Allah k sifati naam ko bator naam rakhtay hain to u snaam k sath ABDUL lagana zaruri hai

direct naam nhn rakha jata

is liyay yaqeeqan Ali RA ka naam is sifati naam se mansoob nhn ho sakta na kiya ja sakta hai

is ki aik wajah yeh bhi hai k Allah k sifati naam nabi SAW k Besaat k baad terteeb hui isi liyay is se pehlay kisi k abhi naam Abdallah to milta hai lakin kisi aur sifati naam se nhn milta

is liyay yeh kehna k Ali RA ka naam Allah k sifati naam se mansoob hai to shayed acceptable nhn hai

is k ilawa aik araz yeh bhi hai k jab hum europe ya south east asia jatay hain to yeh sawal akser gher muslim aur specialy jew n hindus ki teraf se uthaya jat ahai k
KYA SHIYA MUSALMAN NHN ??? ya AGER MUSALMAN HAIN TO UN KI FIQAH BILKUL ALAG KIUN HAI
is liyay aap k ayeh kehna k main lataluq ferad hun ghalat hai as muslim hum sab aik dooseray se munsalik hain


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Posted on:7th Aug 2011, 7:28am
 

jazakallah Wehshi bro

is liyay aap k ayeh kehna k main lataluq ferad hun ghalat hai as muslim hum sab aik dooseray se munsalik hain
Jazakallah , eeN guft e khoob ast baraye ittehaad :)
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Posted on:7th Aug 2011, 7:55am
 

WEHSHI Bhai

woh to maiN youNhi mazaqan kah dia thaa k ap ghair mutalliq haiN lol aisa hota to main khud kiyoun iss thread maiN aataa...

ahaadees ka zakheerah oss tarah nahi hai, jaisaa k quranic ayaat haiN...... "hadees" aur "sunnat" main bhi faraq hota hai. jaisay hadees to yeh bhi hai k nabi kareem saw nay kharay hokar pani piya...lekin "sunnat" yehi hai k pani baiTh kar piya jaa.ay etc etc... sahahay sattah yaa mash'hoor o maroof ahaadees ki kutub ki kisis hadees par "etraaz" karnay ka bhi aik level hota hai. har aira ghaira hadees par etraaz nahi karsakta.

aur yeh forum iss level ka nahi hai k ham yahaan hadees yaa hadees ki kutub ki authenticity ko discuss kar sakaiN...... lehaza main to iss maamlay main kuch kahnay say qaasir hopuN.

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Posted on:7th Aug 2011, 9:58am
 

myrizvi

AP KI BAT SE MUTAFIQ

lakin jab hum yeh kehtay hain k islam itna asan hai k her musalman samajh sakay to hum kiun nhn samajh saktay

main yeh nhn kehta k yahan hadees ki authenticity den


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Posted on:8th Aug 2011, 2:48am
 

sawal

Q: islam itna asan hai k her musalman samajh sakay to hum kiun nhn samajh saktay

A: bilkul samajh saktay haiN, hum bhi ... lekin jo log din raat sirf hadees hi paRhtay aur paRhatay haiN ... woh bahar haal "ham" say zeyadah "behtar" samajh saktay haiN hadees ka "mansha"

lehaza agar kabhi aur kaheeN "ham" kissi hadees ka "woh mafhoom" samajh baiThaiN, jo hadees k "asaatzah" k "akhaz kardah mafhoom" say joda ho to bahar haal onka conclusion "ham" say behtar hoga... am i wrong sir?

aisaa kabhi kabhi aur kaheeN kaheen hi hota hai...... mostly ahaadees simple aur saaf haiN, sab ki samajh main aanay wali.......issi tarah mostly quranic ayaat bhi "mohkamaat" haiN, sab ki samajh main aanay wali........albattah quran main bhi "motashaabehaat" ayaat kam kam haiN, jinka asal mafhoom sirf Allah hi jaantay haiN ... aur kuch zarah "mushkil moqaamaat" hain jissay common person k moqaablay main ulemaa jaldi aur asaani say samajh letay hain k onhouN nay saaloun lagaa.ay hotay haiN quran o hadees seekhnay main aur onkay sha'oor main poora quraan aur ahaadees ka sara zakheerah maujood hota hai.

"ham" main yeh baRi "khami" hai k aik to pooray quran /hadees par "nazar" nahi rakhtay aur bus aik aadh moqaam ko dekh kar faislah karletay hain k ham nay samajh lia.......hamaray samajhnay main ghalati ka imkaan bahoot zeyadah aur ulema k samajhnay main ghalati ka imkaan bahoot kam hota hai... aur bahoot say ulemaa ki "ijtemayee danish" main ghalti ka imkaan nah honay k barabar hota hai... har aalimay deen ki "inferaadi mistakes" hosakti hain aur hoti bhi haiN... lekin agar kissi aik issue /ayat /hadees par ulema ki aksariyat ka koi "mushtarkah mauquf" ho to yeh bahar haal "ham" jaisay logouN k mauquf k moqaablay main authority ka darjah rakhti hai...illah yeh k "mojaddedeen" ka koi baRa group "sabeqah mushtarkah mauquf" ko "matrook" qarar deday.... "jaisay photography n video" jissay qabl azeeN amalan "mushtarkah" taur par HARAM qarar dia gaya thaa...... ab fee nafsehi issay issay JAIZ qarar dia jachuka hai

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