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Bivi Ka Shadi Se Qabal Kirdar: Kaisay Maloom Hoga?

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amber1234 Group: Members  Joined: 21st Oct, 2013  Topic: 3  Post: 14  Age:  37  
Posted on:22nd Oct 2013, 8:32am
 

Bivi Ka Shadi Se Qabal Kirdar: Kaisay Maloom Hoga?

Mmera masala yeh hai k manay aik aisi larki say shadi kee hai jiska mujhay pata tha shadi say pehlay affairs ka or lakron say dostiyaoun ka. ma nay socha k shadi k baad shaid yeh theek hojay or siruf meray tak mahdud rahay. lakin mujhay aisa nazar nae ata. woh ab bi doston say batain kerti hai or ab bi larkon say dostiyan banatee hai.mujhay yeh pata kerna hai k kesay pata chalay ga k untouch thee shadi say pehlay. uskay apnay behnoe say bhi taulukat hain.uskay vagina ka size meray penis say bara kesay hogya shadi k baad.mujhay feel nae hota jub ma usay uper bhata ker dalta hoon lakin shadi ki raat feel hota tha.reply me. 
bushra2012 Group: Members  Joined: 15th Oct, 2013  Topic: 2  Post: 639  Age:  21  
Posted on:22nd Oct 2013, 6:56pm
 

Biwi ko shadi se qabal aapka kirdar kese malum hoga?

Baat to ye hai ke aaj aapko pata chal jay biwi untouch naheen thee shadi se pehlay ya shadi ke waqt to aap kya kar leinge? Ya kya karna chahein ge? Kya irada he? Kuch zehen mein hay aapke? Ya sirf tajassus ho raha hai aur agay ka kuch naheen socha aapne?

Aapke pas koi option he nahen, past ka pata karnay ka faida nahen. Aur wese bhi aapko pehlay ke affairs aur dostion ka pata to thaa. Us waqt aapne jo decision munasib samjha karlya aur shadi karli ab agar pareshani bhi hai to wapsi thori ho sakti hai!

Han ajkal ka dekha ja sakta hai aur dekhna bhi chahye (chori chupay toah laganay ki zarurat nahen).

Ek baat bataon? Apki missus bhi 5 logon se yehi puchtee phir rahi hein hein ke hubby ka penis patla hogya hai shadi ki raat to fit araha thaa ab pata naheen kis pathar pe ragra hai ke diameter kam hogya hai.

Samajh jaen ke aapki missus shadi ki raat virgin theen aur ghabrahat ki wajah se tightness ziada thee. Ab thori kam hogai hai kyunke woh aapke saath easy feel karnay lag gai hein.
H/dr_Qasim Group: Members  Joined: 10th Sep, 2010  Topic: 185  Post: 6559  Age:  36  
Posted on:23rd Oct 2013, 3:30am
 

Very Good answer by bushra2012

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``` Dur asaal Yeh bhai Khod lurkiyoon say Dostiyaan affairs kurty ray hen ab enko apni wife pur shuq ho raha hay, aghur yeh khod dostiyan affairs na kurty hoty tu enno nay Kubi ensy shadi nahi kurni thi jub enko puta tha ky woh essy hay, some time hur Ghur ka mahool ek sa nahi hota , ho sukta hay osky ghur ka mahool esa ho k woh zura frankness say batjeet kurti jissy dakhny wala Ghult mutlab nikal lata hy yeh onky ghraalo mahool ka musla h sukta hy . abi ap Khod ko phely Theek kurain pher wife ko Theek kurain , dosti say peyar say ap osy etna Peyar or Tawajaa dain ky woh sub bhool jay, kumi apki turaf say hay ap elzaam wife pur luga ray hen. Shatani wuswusoo ka eljaaj Shatan say punah hay Allah say Muddad tulab kurin,
amber1234 Group: Members  Joined: 21st Oct, 2013  Topic: 3  Post: 14  Age:  37  
Posted on:23rd Oct 2013, 10:50am
 

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ho sakta hai main usay chor doon. magar asal baat yeh hai k uskay taulukat q hain or larkon say.meray affairs thay per manay kabi kiss tak nae kiya larkiyon ko.agar usnnay kiss or iss say agay sex yah breast suck etc jo kuch bi kerwaya hai to usnay meray saath ziadti ki hai yah kee thee shadi say pehlay. q kay uski sub cheezain meri amanat theen or hain.
lovedangue Group: Members  Joined: 03rd Aug, 2013  Topic: 4  Post: 519  Age:  25  
Posted on:23rd Oct 2013, 6:33pm
 

Mery bhai jaan!!!!

Be brave yr, she is your wife, nd nawt ur husband!!!!
Bhai jaan, sub ka masla bv k vagina sy start hota ha, aor yahen aa k aikhtamam pazeer ho jata ha... Yahni k dheli ho, to aap kaho gy k Wo kse aor k pass jate ha... To kase roz tight ho jay to kya kaho gy??????????hahahah....aisa nhn hoga....

AAp al'aa darjy ke bewakofi kro gy osy chor k, osy chorna theak nhn hoga.... Yah kitne galat baat ha k vagina k dhely hony ke wajha sy ya shaq ke bunyiad py osy chor dia jay. Vagina ka size daikh, k k vo penis k mutabiq ha, ya nhn, koi nhn kah sakta k ya kse aor sy sex krte hain...... aap,

Un par naqab lagay rakhain::: aap un py thora phaira rakhyn, yu agar wo es kaam main involve nhn hu ge to aap ka shaq dour ho jay ga.... Aor agar involve hu ge to aagy aap ko ikhtayar ha, aor haq be k aap jo chahy kro..........

AAm tor par aik aort jo aik sy zaida mardo sy sex kr chuki ho, osy aik mard sy maza hasal nhn hota..... She can become habitual.... es liay un ko sumjahna be beakar jata ha..........

Dosra kaaam, aap un ko achy treqy sy sumjha dain, aor pyar sy k aap ko yah sub theak nhn lagta ha......... Aisa na kry... Ya gulat baat be ha, khud he ahsas na ho gulat aor sahe ka, (zara se baat py bv ko talaq dainy k liay tayar hony vala, galat aor sahe main tameez nhn kr sakta, osy ahsas nhn ho sakta)......

Strong negative response aay ga, (aap aisa soch be kasy sakty hain) to sumajh li jiye k kuch gulat baat ha......
Aor aagr positive response aay (okay, aub nhn kru ge, ya, "main aisa kuch nhn kru ge jo gulat ho, just talking, etc) to sumjah jain, k itna masla nhe ha.... wo q, ku k,

Es tarha ka response dy k apny gulati par parda dalny k sath sath, dosry ko bnda, apny mutaliq, gulat sochny sy rok lyta ha... nafysati tor par dub jata ha.... k kya waqi'e yah gulat soch ha........ ..

Positive response dy ge, to talaqat kharab na hu ge, es noyiat ko sumjhty howy baat kry ge............ (yahni k wo sumjhte ha, k wo gualt kr rahe ha)

Kuch bvian rony lagte hain, k aap aisa soch be kasy sakty hain, he is just my friend , aap jasa sochty hain aisa kuch be nhn....... kitne ghatia soch ha, aap ke, mjy to sharam ati ha aap ke soch py....toba toba.... wo mera boy friend nhn ha............

Aksar laog es situation main lawjab ho jaty hain....... dab jaty hain...... un sy jawab nhn bn pata...........
Aor uny bv ke he man'ni parte ha, k koi galat baat nhn ha.....

Jub aap main galat sahe ka ahsas hoga to aap khob tarha dosro ko be yah tameez sekha sakty hain................

amber1234 Group: Members  Joined: 21st Oct, 2013  Topic: 3  Post: 14  Age:  37  
Posted on:24th Oct 2013, 7:34am
 

Aik or baat

yeh masala bi hai k woh apnay behnoe ko pasand kerti hai.jub hum uski ami k ghar jatay hain or wahan uska behnoe bi apni bv k ssatth ata hau to yeh bohat khush hoti hai.or uskay agay peechay rehtui hai. or kici time dono alag tanhae ma miltay hain.jub yeh dono daikhtay hain k sub log aik jagha akhatay hain to yeh dono side ma kaheen chalay jatay hain thori dair k liyaa.yeh nae maaloom hosakta k yeh dono akailay main kia kertay hain. ma kia kroon.iskay ghar waloon ko or iski sister ko btaun jis kay husband ka ziker manay kia hai wo naraz hojati ha or kehti hai k ma ilzaam tarashi kerta hooon. mujhay nae samjh lagata k ma kia kroon.yaad arahay k iski shadi iski behan ki shadi k 12 saal baad hue hai.is doran behnoe nay is say taulukat qaem kerliyaa hain mujhya yeh lagta hai.shadi say pehlay mujhay nae pata tha.shadi k doosray din isnay mujhay bataya k mujhay apny behnoe say muhabat hai.pata nae konsi muhabat kerti hai. Plz solve this problem.behnoe isay asharay kerta hai.inki bohat zaida understanding hai apni behnoe k saath. ma kesay handle kroon yeh sub issues.
lovedangue Group: Members  Joined: 03rd Aug, 2013  Topic: 4  Post: 519  Age:  25  
Posted on:24th Oct 2013, 12:29pm
 

Okay, problem is very serious..... so,

Bina sochy meri bato py amal na krna.....ya na ho garh barbaad ho jay!!!!!!!!!!!aor bech main aisa kuch be na ho.....Phir pechatwa. ... aor sath mjy shatan k tajj sy nawaza jay....... aor aap ke bud duaain be mery hisy main aayn....!!!!!

What is sex?
Es ke, tareef yu be ki jate ha, "sex is the expression of spiritual love"..... so, jub muhabat hoge to phir yah be hoga.
Larki aor larky main es tarha ka rishta hoga, (behnoe ha to, es ka koi rishta nhn bnta es k sath.. kse be rooh sy, bhenoe to pukarny, ya janan'y k liay theak ha, magar yah koi khas risht nhn ha, es main kho hadod nhn hain).... to wo na mahrum hoga aap ke bv k liay......, sumjhayn, milna, bolna, un k samny jana be jaiz nhn ha........

Asal main hota yu ha, k jub rishta kia jata ha, to aksar salian apny bhanaoe, k pechy lag jate hain, tk k os ko qabo main rakha jay, os k aour humari behn main thore frankness krwie jay...... to system kae baar kharabi ke jarr bn jata ha.... Aagy sy, phir garm joshi k sath istaqabal hota ha,(es taraf be tofan aajta ha) to koun ha, jisy pyar dia jay to wo qabol na kry ga???? ese tarha phir baaz o qaat garh valo ke taraf sy dheel ho to Donu main galat tarha k talauqat qaim ho jaty hain... Larki sochte rahte ha k mery husband kitny achy hain mery garh valo k sath.........

Mobhat ha, to mobhat naam he hawas ka ha, ya Alag baat ha k Allah ny rishty bna diay hain, to os k dar aor es ke qanon k mutabiq baaz rishto main ya muhabat hawas man nhn bdlte, magar muhabat main yahe hota ha, sex. and sex..... (kuch loag es sy itaraz krain gy...but im not intended to discuess love here).....

Jub aap by haya ho jyan to aap ko fiqar nhn rahte ha..... AAp k khayal main sex phir, fingering sy zaida kuch nhn hota, yahni k penis vagina k andr behair kia, just~ thats all...... aor to kuch nhn ha....... magar ha to by hayye..... Jis ko es baat ka ahsas ho vo, sex ko bht gunah sumjhta ha.... . Aor es ke saza be aap ko pta hoge, Agar donu shadi shuda hu to, phir ba khushi krain to Donu ko sang saar kr do. ....

main ny aap ki bato py kafi gor o fiqar kia ha..... es liay main Such kahu to aap ke bv aor bhenaoe k darmayan koi ghera rishta ha... aor aap ny jo clues diay sub es baat ko strongly support krty hain......... .........

Aub aap yu krain,

sub sy phly, apni bv ko kahyn k ao maiky chalyn, subha k waqt, magar aap ny jana nhn ha, aap koshish krain k wo, apny bhanoe ko bula ly maiky main, ya bhen sy contact kr k uny bula ly, jub wo aa jyn to koi bhana bna lyn. k aaj nhn ja sakty..... yu aap ko, kuch batain pta lagyn ge......

1, aya bv ny bhanoe ko bulaya/ya os ke behn ny socha k wo arhe ha, to hum be chalty hain.....
2, jub aaap nhn jayn gy to phir daikho, k os taraf sy koun insist krta ha,aap ke bv k wahan aany k liay...

Jub wo chaly jayn to, aap bv ko ly jayn.... phir bv ka kya mood bnta ha, ya be note krian, (aor kya kya krte ha, un ko bulany k liay, jate ha, ya nhn).......

Aagar wo wapsis aa jayn to es baat par gor kro k aap ke bv ny bulaya, ya nhn, (koun se cheez uny khench k ly aaye)........

Es tarha aap har baar be kr sakty hain,.... Yu bv be puchny py majbor ho jay ge......... .........

Zong ka number ho to, zong ecare sy web site sy roz ke msgs and calls ke details ly lia krian, register kr ka.........


Aor be kuch treqy ho sakty hain......

Bv k soty main, bv k nbr sy bhenaoe ko msgs kr lia , agr vo be kr sakta ha to, koi by hoda sa, phir koi baat k di, (mera dil nhn laag raha)....... daikhyn kya reply ata ha..... Phir aap ko kuch mazeed andaza ho jay ga..... Yu aap ko asani ho jy ge sumjhny main.....

Aor yah chez aap baad main agar koi, mazeed saboot milty hain to kse bary ko dikha aor sumjha sakty hain........

Es tarha k aor be bht sary treqy ho sakty hain...... App ko khud he new new ideas aayn gy..... jo bnda problem face kr raha ho, osy zaida ideas aaty hain os mamly ke noyiat sy...... ku k har chzz ka mashaida kr raha hotaa h, phir practical kr lyta h, yu result be aa jata ha.... ......


Aik aor chez...... Jo be kro soch sumajh k , khob planning k sath, aik yah kaam kro ga, to kya response aay g.a... na kro ga to kya hoga.... es k mutbadil kya ho sakta ha....... har chez... Aik diary bna loooooo.....

Aor agar., aor yah chez ha, k aagar aap detail investigation krna chahty ho to, phir, daikho, jub aap ko burpoor shaq ho k aap ke bv un k sath mil k aye ha, jaahn sex krny ka un k pass moqa ho, to un ko pukrain, seda laboratory ly jyn.....Test krwa lain....magar tb jub burpoor Andaza ho k aisa howa hoga..... Fazol main paisa mat zaya krna...... aor na he moqa....

Phir es k baad, be aor treqy hain. aik purana mobile ly lo, nokia ka, third class. mara sara..... 300 tk mil jay ga. os k mic ja k direct krwa lain, mechanic sy.... os k zriay jasosi krain.......... (es phone main call khud he attend hoge, and sath main load speaker be on ho jy ga)....

Os ko silent kr k wahn rakh aayn, jahan py, wo donu bethy gy, ya apny garh main wahan rakhian, jahan sy bv phone py un k sath baat krain......
jub phone wahan, chupa hwa hoga, tb es main asani ya hoge k jub call kro gy to loud speakr khud he on ho jaaay ga, and call attend be khud ho jay ge....... (es tarha k treqy main ny bht use kiay hain, phly aik radio set main yah system hota tha, jo k kase dosry muhaly main be rakha ho to sub sunie dyta tha.)......... aap call pckg kr k call kr k on rakhain,,.... khud he ,,,, sari batain aaap ko sunie dyn ge agar range main hu ge.... to jasy takiay k nechy,,.. bed k nechy..... kafi close ho bv k...............

Phir, binocular ly lo, ...... Es sy jub aap ke bv aap k bhanaoe k pass bethe ho to os ko dour sy daikhyn... Daikhny sy bht chezain pta lag jate hian..... Yah treqa bht he car garh ha...... AAp ke bv k expressions and os k dost k aap ko khud he bta dyn gy k what is going on there.. ache vale ho door been........

Es k ilawa, jub bv aay to sex krny ka kaho aap osy.... na many to ya be ho sakta ha, wo kr k aaye ho, aagr maan jay, (phir sahe sy na krway to) es sy be clue mily ga....... Ku k sex marzi sy nhn, dil sy kia jata ha..... khud kaa amal ke tarha..... es main zabardasti ni ki ja satke apny aaap py...... And vagina k aas paas, hairs, (smell kr k semen ke smell be aa sakte h, etc)) aor be clues hu gy...

Jub aap ke bv un sy milny jay ge to undershave lazmi kry ge.... Must!!!!!.


Es k ilawa.....

Humary bary borhy bht ghatia kism k loag hain.( aap btao, k jin logo k naam py qomain, casts. wajhood main aay hain, jis qoam py loag fakhar krty hain, kya wo loag hum sy behtr howy hu k jahalt k os dour mai) bkwas he ha.... yah laog , jub rishta krwaty hain to 100 chezin hote hain note krny vale, yah aik be nhn krty.......

So, phle baat bv ka intakhab he os k deen ho....... Phir os k baad agar wo aisa kry to, (phli baat chances kum hain./ phir os ko set krna be asan ho jay ga)........

Rozana, bv ko bitha k, quran ke tilawat krain, garh k aour afraad ko be bula lain, phir tarjama, tafseer, aor kuch bhas o muhabaisa.... es tarha deen ke taleem do gy aap..... ... kbi wo, kbi aap, kbi koi aor......

Bv ko nimaz k liay othayn.... os ke fiqar krian... gifts dain......... tajahaud pharain... os k liay be othayn, khud be othain... os ko lead krian......

Yaqeen janyne, Pyar, love, muhabat, jo be ha.. ya mukhlasi sirf aor sirf Allah tala ka hukam man'ny sy aati ha... kse aor treqy sy nhn....
baqi es k ilawa jo be ha, sub dikhawa hota ha. sacha pyar to Allah he dilo main dalta ha.......

aap ke bv ny to galat talauqat qaim kiay hain. os ke mubhata k asal haq daar to aap hain.......


So,

soch sumajh k step laina bhai...... Main be aap k liay dua kru ga... Ap khud be krain.... aor bhanoe, ya sali ko kah dain k aap ko yah acha nhn lagta.... truth is truth... be daring... No hasitaiton!!!!. sedha jawab... jo k loag kahty hoty hain, (main apny aby ko maaf nhn krta, tm kya chez ho).......... Es k ilawa, bv ko be sumjha dain.... Os ko deen py laga dain..... ....

Main aik article likhu ga. papers k baad, "bv k dil main muhabat kasy daali jaay" aap be read krna. 2 hafto k baad..... AAp ke be help hoge... aor bht he zaburdast treqy share kru ga.......

Byeeeeeeeee. Fee aman Ullah........

amber1234 Group: Members  Joined: 21st Oct, 2013  Topic: 3  Post: 14  Age:  37  
Posted on:25th Oct 2013, 6:33pm
 

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Aik or baat yeh hai k woh jub bi hum uski ammi ki ghar jain or khana sub log kha rahay hon akhatay bhait ker to wo or uska bahnoe amnay samny bhait ker khana kahatay hain dasterkhawan per. q k unki family baree hai or sub log mil ker akhatay khana khatay hain.or agar kici jagah invited hon sb jis ma yeh bi or uski sister or behnoe bi hon tab bi iski full koshish hoti hai kay amnay samnay bhaitha jayaaa. manay aap ka reply perha--
bushra2012 Group: Members  Joined: 15th Oct, 2013  Topic: 2  Post: 639  Age:  21  
Posted on:25th Oct 2013, 7:07pm
 

Asal pareshaani aapko behnoi se hai

Aapne bohot saray affairs ka zikr to aisay kia thaa jese aapki wife ke pas line lagi rehti ho, but ab mamla khula ke aapko sirf ek behnoi se masla hai.

Jin girls ke baray bhai nahen hotay, unke behnoi he baray bhai hotay hein. Aap uski life mein abhi ay hein, jabke behnoi bachpan se uski life ka hissa hein.

Ab ye bhi ho sakta hai ke bohot frankness ho aur bohot se inside jokes unke aapas mein hon. Aur ye bhi ho sakta hai ke behnoi pe shaitan sawar ho. Lekin har waqt ka shak koi achi baat nahen. Aur tajassus bhi koi achi baat nahen.

Sab loag note karlein: ZINA kabeera gunah hai. Lekin jahannum mein to tajassus aur gheebat bhi lejaen ge! Islye aap ye dekh lein ke ye sab shak aur wehem kar ke aap apni qabar mein to aag nahen bhar rahay?

Aap ke pas 2 option hein:

1) Biwi se direct puch lein ke 4 logon ne meray kaan bharay hein ke tum aur tumharay behnoi sex kartay phir rahay hein. Iss mein aap haq bajanib hongay: kyunke Rasool PBUH ki biwi jo ummat ki maan Aisha RA pe bhi dushmanon ne ilzam laga dia thaa, aur wo donon bohot ziada upset bhi huay is wajah se, chunanche jo cheez seerat se sabit hai, biwi ke kirdar pe agar koi ilzam laga de to (shohar aur biwi dononka) upset hona jaiz hai.

2) Biwi aur behnoi ki mulaqatain kam karein. Iss tarah agar koi gunah ho bhi raha hai to moqa he nahen milega.

(Ye donon option pehlay bhi kisi ne post kar dye hein isi topic mein).

Baqi reh gai baat ke aap se shadi se pehlay sex hua tha ya nahen hua tha behnoi ke saath ya kisi ke bhi saath ye aapka masla nahen hai. Kia aapne shadi ke waqt condition rakhi thee susral mein ke larki guaranteed unadulterated ho? Agar nahen rakhi thee to tawaqqa bhi na rakhein. Aur talaq walaq ka khyal dil se nikaal dein.

Agar shadi ke baad bhi sex chalta raha tha, aur wo irada zahir karay ke ainda bhi wo extramarital sex karti rahegi to sochiye ga talaq baray mein.

END NOTE: Kuch larkian wese he chechki mehekti aur chanchal mizaj hoti hein, iska matlab ye nahen ke khulla sex ho raha hoga. Example: larkian sab se ziada free apnay abbu ke saath hoti hein, lekin unse sex naheen ho raha hota, aur bohot si girls apnay husband se bohot sharmati hein, lekin intahai sex ho raha hota hai.

Therefore ziada baat cheet aur frankness is not equal to ziada sex.
lovedangue Group: Members  Joined: 03rd Aug, 2013  Topic: 4  Post: 519  Age:  25  
Posted on:26th Oct 2013, 12:26pm
 

Zina Qatal sy bara gunah ha!!!!

Ulma ny mutafaqa tor par aik fatwa jari kia tha, kafi arsa phly..::::: k agar aap k sar par koi gun rakh kr kufar kahlway, yahne k iqrar kro k tm muslim nhn ho to, yah jaiz ha. Magar zina krny ka kahy to yah jaiz nhn ha.....

AAp topic parh lo mera.... pichla...
Zaida active hona pary ga.... aor bv ko apne taraf attract krian, zabardasti be, and pyar sy be. ..... aor bhenaoe ko kah dyn k tm dour raho....... aor daro mat... AAp ke izat ke baat ha...
amber1234 Group: Members  Joined: 21st Oct, 2013  Topic: 3  Post: 14  Age:  37  
Posted on:26th Oct 2013, 5:04pm
 

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Mujhay prob uskay behnoe say nae uski harkaton say hai. Kon insaan bardasht ker sakta hai ki uski BV uski sister k husband k saath set ho. or uskay or b affairs chalay hon ya chal rahay hon. Agar manay yeh kabool kia k uskay affairs thay or shadi ki to kia ma ab be yeh bee bardasht kroon k woh meray saath relation bananay k baad bi taulukat rakhay.Uskay baray bhai hain woh kafi choti hai. behnoe bachpan say nae hai balkay woh tub F.A ma perti thee jub uski sister ki shadi hue. Inside jokes ka kya matlub hai? meray kici nay kaan nae bharay or agar ma usay yeh kahooon k ma suni sunae baton per yakeen ker raha hoon to mera case kamzor per jay ga. Bv or behnoe ki mulakat kum kranay ki kafi koshish ker chuka hoon per uski behan araay ajati hai. Woh kehti hai k ma shak kerta hoon. Sawal to yeh hai agar woh pakray bi jain or na bi pakray jain to jo undon nay kia hai sex etc(breast sucking,fingering,kissing etc) kisi bi shakal ma ho wo ker to chuki meray nikah ma anay k baad yah pehlay apny behnoe k saath. Masala yeh bi hai k jub apni aami ki taraf jati hai wahan sub log atay hain behnoe etc bi to wahan bohat khush rehti hai lakin jub ghar ati hai meray saath to udaas hojati hai. Yaad rahay k hum alehda rehtay hain. or raat ko meray saath dusri taraf chehra kerkay so jati hai. Yani izdawaji taulukat ma dilchaspi nae laitee.
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Posted on:27th Oct 2013, 3:19am
 

Point to be noted

Meri BV ko 4 days hogyain ha periods start nae huay lakin pad wo 4 din say pehan rea hai k kci b wakat start hosaktay hain. kya aisa hota hai yah phir usnay sex kia hua hai usko chupana chahtee hai? meray saath sex nae kerna chahtee? Bahana hai kya uska?
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Posted on:27th Oct 2013, 6:58am
 

Yar

yah baat nhn ha, periods, perashani sy, khany main kami sy, yah kse be wajha sy late ho jaty hain......
Jo bv husband sy aik rat sy zaida naraz ho, Allah aor frishty os k pay lanat bejhty rhty hain.....(hadees)
Agar bv ko os ka husband camel k opar sawari krty howy be sex ka kahy to osy mana nhn krna chahye (hadees)..........

Perashani muqao yar........ Ap sali sy baat kro....
Bv sy sedhy treqy sy baat kro k masla kya ha.....
main hota to bhenoe sy baat krta sedha,.....direct, face to face..............
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Posted on:27th Oct 2013, 7:36am
 

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Ma baat is waja say nae ker raha k meri position bohat kamzor hai her lehaaz say oral,family etc. Agar baat berhee or baat behnoe ki maanee gae or rishta khatam honay per agya to meray liyaa bohat mushkil hojayaa ga dobara say shadi kerna or zindagi ky maamlaat chalana. BV say baat kerun b to woh seedha dhamkee daitee hai chor dainay kee or magarmuch k ansooo rona shuru ker daitee hai.
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Posted on:27th Oct 2013, 10:38am
 

Dare to do that

Jub aap baat kro gy to, masla hal ho jay ga...... Bewakof loag, kse be cheez ko ultimate resource k tor par use kr dyte hain,. jo be un ka hathayar hota ha.... aap phly aur resources apnao.... phir last resort yahe ho to jub osy pta lagy ga to dar jay ge....... Aor koi aor treqy kro..... shadi Allah ny krwani ha.... AAp k aor mery hath kuch nhn hota.... sirf aor sirf Allah he qadir ha har chez py.....

Qayamat k din, sub sy phly..., Admi ka, apne bv k sath acha salook tola jay ga... aor bv ka apny khawand ka sath. Aor, jub aagr amaal ka wazan kum parhny lag jy to badal ka tukra aa k amal ko dayda kr dy ga... Bnda frishto sy puchy ga, k ya kya tha... wo kahyn gy yah tery achy akhlaaq thay jinhu ny tmy becha lia ha.....
so, achy akhlaq he asal hathayar hain..

phir, Allah k rasol saww ke hadees ha, k achy akhlaq vala nabi bnty rah jata ha...(q k nabi bn aor bn nhn sakta koi),,......

AAP pane sali ko kaho, k ya chakar raha to aap talaq do gy ,osy sumjah aa jy ge... Achy treqy sy kaho...... aap tension na lo...aap yah kro..... Talaq na dyna....mamala behtr ho jay ga.....
Phly achy treqy sy mamala sedha krny ke koshish kro....har treqa apnao.... Use, force, love, everything..
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Posted on:27th Oct 2013, 6:05pm
 

@amber1234

Agar aadmi thora parha likha ho to internet pe dictionary waghera dekh leta hai ya ghar mein bhi dictionary hoti hai, beherhal inside joke wo joke hota hai jo aik mehfil mein loag bethay hon to unn mein 2 loag ya ek chotay group ke saath waqea guzra ho aur woh usko yad karke hansanay lag jaen, jabke mehfil ke baqi loag munh dekhtay reh jaen ke iska kya matlab hua?

Apkay bhi apnay doston ke saath inside jokes hongay e.g sabhan hotel wali wardat (ab ye kuch bhi ho sakti hai is mein aisa ho sakta hai ke aap logon ne kisi dost ko ullo banaya ho) lekin ye inside joke hai common joke nahen.

Ab aap apnay points pe ajaen:

1) BV ka maikay se aa kar udaas ho jana bari baat nahen. Jin ladies ki shadi ko 12-15 saal ho jatay hein 4-5 bachay bhi matric inter ki age tak aa jatay hein unka bhi maikay se wapas aanay ko dil naheen chahta ya waapas aa kar udaas ho jati hein. (Jinka behnoi se affair to kia jinki koi behen hi nahen hoti unka bhi yehi hal hota hai). Ab ye Allah behtar janta hai ke wo apnay maan baap behen bhai ko miss karti hein ya aapke favourite "behnoi" ko.

2) Ab ye ho sakta hai ke waqai period problem ho. Aap uski underwear utarwa kar check to kartay nahen honge ke blood spotting hai ya nahen. (Aur agar itna ghustay hein to ye bari karahiat wali baat hai). Ap foram doctor ke pas le jaen usko. Aur ye bhi samjha dein ke sanitary pads koi sasti cheez naheen hotay. Agar waqai period nahen araha aur pad zaya kar rahi hai to is se monthly budget pe asar parega.

3) Agar wo kisi aur ke saath unprotected sex (without condom) kar ke ai hai to aap wese bhi us se sex nahen karna chahein ge kyunke mani female body se bahr leak ho jati hai wapas. Aur agar aap us waqt sex kareinge to wahan kisi aur ki mani bhari hui hogi. Aur aapko intahai ganda lagay ga. Ye cheez pehlay soch lein ke agar wo kisi wajah se mana bhi kar deti hai to ek tarah se ye aapke faide ki bhi baat hai. Warna agar agree hogai to aapko bari hui balti mein sexkrna paray ga.

Baqi aapki baat theek hai ke shaadi ke baad wafadari zaruri hai. Mera bhi kehna yehi thaa ke shaadi se pehlay jo hua uspe aapka control nahen tha aur ab bhi kuch kehnay ka haq naheen aapko. Albatta shadi ke baad apki begum ko sudhar jana chahye. Ab sex to kya frankness etc bhi khatam kar deni chahye. Aur ye sab nahen kehna chahye, "mery husband ko pasand nahen", balkey ye kehna chahye, "shadi hogai hai meri aur ab zimmedarian barh gai hein islye pehlay ki tarah lambay lamby phone nahen kar sakti".

@lovedangue

Pata nahen kahan ke ulema baith ke muttafiqa fatwa jari kar detay hein. Jab ke hadees se bilkul clear hai gunah-e-kabeera desending order mein is tarah hein:

1. Kufr
2. Shirk
3. Sood (interest)
3. Qatal
4. Sodomy
5. Zina
6. Sharab (10 related kaam batay gay hein jis mein sharab banana, bechna, peena, etc sab shamil hein)
7. Daka
8. Chori
9. Aghwa baray tawaan

Ulema ke ijtahaad ki zarurat us waqt pesh aati hai jab hadees mein direct guidance na ho. Is baray mein to clear ahadees bukhari shareef waghera mein mojud hein.
Agar kisi ko meray uper wali list mein correction nazar ay to bata dein.
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Posted on:28th Oct 2013, 3:31am
 

Bushra2012

Oakay,,...aap ny bilkal theak likhy hain.. magar,
Zinah, kai tarha ka ha, agar unmarried zinah krty hain, raza mandi sy to phir 100 kory lagyn gy....clear.....
Phir, agar zinah krny valy married hain, raza mandi sy kia jay to phir, Ibrat naak saza do, snagsaar kro..... es tarha ke saza ha.......

And Quran main es ke sakhte sy pabandi krny ko kaha gyia... k koi raham na krna.......

Qatal, Qatal to, k mutaliq be sazain hain, magar os ka chakar ya ha k, sath he maaf krny ka hukam ha. agar qatal hony valy k worasa, diat ly k maaf kr dain. ya waisy he maaf kr dyn.....
Aub aap mjy hadees dikhao, ya quran ke ayat, jahan py zana krny valy ko maaf krny ke koi jungaish rakhi gye ho.????

Aise koi hadees nhn, na quran es chez ko support krta ha.....
So, Kufar kabeera gunah ha, magar, Allah ny ijazat di h, jaan bechany k liay kufar krny ke, magar dil main iman ka hona lazmi ha......

Kya Allah ny, ya Rasool ny yah kaha ha, k koi Zabardasti zinah krway to kr lain?????
so, Ulma ny fatwa es liay jari kia tha, k kuch loag, gurbat ka bahana bna k Zinah k krny koi jaiz krar dy rahy thay, (especially media valy), so, es fatway ko es tarha sy dia gyia k, Es gunah ke mafi kse surat be nhn ha....

Main ny sirf jo fatwa paraha, suna wo likh dia.... Main ny agay bta dia...... Mery khayal sy yah fatwa sahe ha..... wo es liay k

Zinah aap ke izat ka masla ha...... So, Khudkashi jaiz nhn ha.... Mgar izat bechany ke khatir khudkashi jaiz ho jate ha... Ya aik aor fatwa ha...

Aam tor par main hadees o quran ko he consider krta hu.. Magar chu k es sawal ka jawab, hadees o quran sy nhn milta k,
Agar aap ko koi force krta ha, kufar par to, aap ko kufar krny ki ijazat ha??? so, ans is yes. To agar koi, forces krta ha zinah k liay to kya ijazat ha??????
Direct answer na to hadees main ha, na quran main... magar conclusion draw krna chanayen to kr laina......... Q k Zianh ke Quran main bht sakte sy momanat ha.......

"Obey Allah and obey his raool (saww), and if you don't know any thing ask it form the people of knowledge. If they differ then go back to Allah and his rasool" Quran.......
I don't know any Ulams who oppose this fatwa.....
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Posted on:28th Oct 2013, 5:30pm
 

@lovedangue

Aik to zina izzat ka masla nahen. Ye kisi hadees se sabit nahen ke razamandi se ziana ya zabardasti (rape) se zinaizzat ka masla hai. Ye sab thinking local culture ki pedawaar hai jiska deen se talluq nahen.

Jan bachana farz hai. Uskay lye kalma ka inkaar par jay ya ya koi shakhs forced karay donon surat mein. Ab victim party khus bhi lazzat lenay ag jay ye to Allah ko malum yaqeenan hoga aur us hisab se wo faisla kar deinge qiyamat ke din.

Isi tarah pata nahen konse ulema ne fatwa dya hai ke izzat bachanay ke lye khudkushi jaiz hai. Hamari nazar mein ulema ka clear fatwa hai ke 1947 partition ke waqt jin aurton ne kunwen mein kood kar khudkushi kar li rape se bachnay ke lye ye najaiz amal thaa. Aur unhein bhi mardon ki tarah jihad kartay huay apni jaan deni chahye thee. Khudkushi har haal mein haraam hai. Aur rape ho jana ke izzat se koi talluq nahen jesay me ne likha pehlay bhi. Ye izzat beizzati cultural cheez hai. Ke ji rape hogya to izzat kam hogai. Aray izzat kam hogi jo ghalat kaam karay uski, victim bechara/bechari ke saath to hui he zabardasti hai.

Ghurbat ka bahana bana kar zina jaiz nahen, magar ghareeb (jo faqay se ho) usko khanay ke lye pait bhare se jang karnay ki ijazat hai, aur agar wo mar jay to shaheed hai.

Qatal ka concept alag hai. Qatal ka nuqsaan alag hai. Qatal ki saza alag hai. Qatal mein mazay ka koi pehloo nahen. Ye nafasni khuqahish ke tehat nahen hota.

Zina ka concept alag hai. Zina ka nuqsaan alag hai. Zina ki saza alag hai.
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Posted on:29th Oct 2013, 4:11am
 

Zana izat ka masla ha be nhn be

Yah baat zina ke sorat py depend krte ha, aya izat ka masla ha ya nhn ha..... Fornication ha, ya adultery aor kuch aro types be hain.......

Islam aor izat e nafs: Islam main izat e nafs ke bht ahmiat ha....... Kahen, there are hundreds of ayats and ahdees recording izat e nafs..... (kase ko gali mat do, kse k khandan ko bura bhala na kaho, kse ki izat na otaro,) es tarah quran be izat par bht zor dyta ha......

Zina-izat, islam.........
Islam main yah nhn ha, k zinah izat ka masla ha..... (direct ayat ha na hadees)....
main ny aisa nhn kaha.... (yah cultural nhn bl k logical thought ha.) You are logical girl MashAllah.... so,

ese tarha, qatal kro to, victim k garh valo ka shara kum ho jay ga, un k kamay ga koun etc etc yah consequences hain, (yah na quran main hain na hadees mai, lakin ya logical baat ha...)......

Quan, quran koi Magazine. ya koi aor book nhn jis mian har chez detail sy bayan ho, na he hadees, Consequences bayan nhn howy......


Your question is ( does compulsion make the zina permissible?)
so, simple answer is " NO, it doesn't. The compulsion doesn't make the zina permissible... (majority of ulmas says this, by drawing conclusion form ahadees and quran.).. .Because the consequences of zina are worse than being killed."... (if you are killed, aor you kill your self, then you are considered shaheed. did i say shaheed? yes.... shaheed).... Jasy, Sood na khao, chahy bhoky mar jao, chori na kro bhok k dar sy,,.. jaiz harbay istaml kr k be bhoky mar jao to, phir, be shaheed shumar ho gy,( sood aor chori ki ijazt nhn h, magar, pig ko kha sakty hain, marny sy bechny k liay, so, quran ko sumjhna kafi muskil ha, contrary to this, otna asan be).....

And there is no guarantee that man will not kill you after doing zina.....

Kufar, Marny sy bechny k liay kufar kahny ke ijazat ha. To is ka matlb howa main mar jaon, kufar na kru to, main ny khudkashi ki???? yahe na, nahn janb bl k main shaheed shumar hu ga...... ... Es sorat main Allah k laiy jan di, and apne dignity k liay be, izat k liay be..... Allah ny ijazat di, ha, so, phir masla humari izat ka ha.... to izat ke khatir qurbna ho gy to shaheed ho gy,,. aor ala darjy ke shdat naseeb howe.....

Ese tarha, KOi tmy force kry kse ko qatl krny k liay to na kro.... Khud qatal ho jao.......

Qatal main vorasaa ko maaf krny ka haq ha.... Zina main haq nhn ha.... jo aisa kry ga, jo maaf kry ga, vo qamayat ka din sakht azab ka masa chaky ga....


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Posted on:29th Oct 2013, 10:50am
 

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But masala yah hai k woh kisi or say sex kerwayaa q? or agar sex kia hua hai yah kerwati hai to ma usay is situation ma b kabool kroon. uskay saath rahoon or hake zojiyat ada kerta rahoon. Iskay bawajood k woh meray saath rehnay k bawajood meri nae kici or ki hai. Uskay jazbaat meray liyaa nae hain woh kici or ko apna sub kuch samjhtee hai. Kiya kici husband k liyyaa is say bari kia baat hogi k uski BV kisi or ki ho. Uski na ho. Rehti apnay husband k saath ho magar dil ma koi or bhaitha ho.
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