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Jinnah - Shia/Sunni/Hindu? Zani/Sharabi?

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MisbahI Group: Members  Joined: 29th May, 2015  Topic: 18  Post: 37  Age:  17  
Posted on:8th Sep 2016, 4:42pm
 

Jinnah - Shia/Sunni/Hindu? Zani/Sharabi?

Mera yeh sawal ha ke kya quaide azam shia thay ya sunni thay baz log tu yeh bhe kehte hen ke woh hindu thay bad main musalman hue thay aur sharab bhe pete thay aur unke girls friend bhe the kya yeh baat sach the??? Aur kahi log tu unko indian agent bhe mante hen? 

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iTHero Group: Members  Joined: 08th Apr, 2009  Topic: 5  Post: 39  Age:  30  
Posted on:11th Sep 2016, 9:56pm
 

QAMAJ

Misbah G apki maloomat kam hai ya aap ne study nahi ki. Quad-e-Azam jesi Shaksiyat Ab Dubara Peda nahi hogi. mere ilm ke mutabik wo wali thay. q ke mere ilm or tehqeek ke bad to ye pata chala hai ke unko Pakistani bananay ki basharat hui thi. or unka janaza pharhanay wale thanvi sahab bhi unke mukhalif thay lekin ain jinnah ki wafat ki rat thanvi sahab ko khuwab me Nabi (saw) ki basharat hui ke ye mera mujahid hai ... or wo subah hi janaza pharhanay pohanch gaye thay..... mere pas is article ka proof or pic bhi mojod hai.... Jinnah wo thay jinki angrez bhi tareef karta hai..or mazeed malumat darkar ho to. puch sakti hen. apne ilm me izafay ke liye unki zindagi per kafi books likhi ja chuki hen ap wo read karen.
bushra2012 Group: Members  Joined: 15th Oct, 2013  Topic: 1  Post: 1787  Age:  80  
Posted on:12th Sep 2016, 1:11pm
 

username MisbahI - Questions/confusions about Jinnah's personal beliefs

1. Hearsay - Suni sunai:

"...baz log tu yeh bhe kehte hen..."

"...kahi log tu _____ ko ______ bhe mante..."

Suni sunai to har kisi ke baray main ho sakti hai. MisbahI ke baray main koi sharab o zina ke qissay aam kar he sakta/sakti hai.

Kia suni sunai pe yaqeen karna chahye? Iskay lye baqaeda dar-ul-ifta se rujoo' kijyay, jo Quran ki aayat aur ahadees ke zariye yeh samjhaen ge ke baghair tehqeeq baat ko barhawa dena aur baghair tehqeeq ai hui baatpe yaqeen karna kesa hai.

2. "kya yeh baat sach the"

a. Aaj yeh batanay ka koi tareeqa nahen.

b. Zaib-e-daastan kelye bohot si batain barha charha kar bayan ki jati hain jabke tehreek-e-Pakistan ke loag koi itnay mazhabi na thay. Yahan tak ke Allama Iqbal jinhon ne deeni falsafay ko jadeed shakal di unki bhi darhi na thee. Mazhabiat ka sailaab to Zia-ul_haq ke daur main aya hai jisko history ki books main Islamization kaha gya hai.

c. Yeh baat sach hai ya nahen, yeh irrelevant zaroor hai. Chunanche iskay lyay bhi aap dar-ul-ifta se rujoo' farmaen jo aapko tafseel se bata sakenge ke "la-taqfu-ma-laisa-lka-behi-ilm" wali aayat yaani ke jo tumhain malum he nahen uskay peechay na paro, wali aayat ka kia matlab hai.

d. Aap se qiyamat ke din aapke aqaed aur a'amal ke baray main sawal kia jaega, kisi aur shakhs ke a'mal aur aqaed ke baray main nahen. Islye doosron ke chakkar main parne ke bajae apni nabaiRain.

e. Agar aap ko sach pata chal bhi jae to aap kia kar lengi? Yaani yeh malumat hasil kar ke aap ka next step kia hoga? Sirf curiosity ki taskeen ya phir ainda zindagi main aap uss maloomat ki bunyad pe kuch karna chahti hain?

f. Jin loagon ka inteqaal ho chuka hai unka naam adab aur ehtiraam se lya jata hai, chahay woh muslim hon ya non-muslim. Chunancheh non-muslim maslan gandhi waghera ka naam bhi aap janab ke saath he istemal karna chahye, kyunkeh islam ne hamain bad-tameezi na sikhai. Albatta jin loagon pe quran shareef main baqaeda naam le kar la'nat ki gai, unka intahai adab-o-ehtiraam karna mashkook hai, albatta gaali dena unhain bhi jaen nahen. Baat yeh nahen ke woh gaali ke mustahiq thay ke nahen, baat unkay amal ki nahen, hamari zubaan ki hai.

3. "Jinnah" ki naheen, "jannah" ki fikr kijye.
Ledgend Group: Members  Joined: 07th Sep, 2016  Topic: 0  Post: 13  Age:  30  
Posted on:12th Sep 2016, 1:57pm
 

Jinnah... Sunni Muslim

Appne sahi kaha inkay khandan ka background non muslim and muslim pe base karta hai. likin Quaid e azam sunni muslim thay.

Quaid e azam indian agent hosaktay honge jab Pakistan bananay ka nahi socha hoga unho ne, likin jab ye socha tou wo Pakistani Agent kehlayenge.

Quaid e azam drink bhi kartay honge etc etc........but wo namaz bhi parhtay thay (likin humne is baat pe focus nahi kia ? )....

Asal baat.....Quaid e azam bhi ek insaan hi thay, agar buraiyaan thi tou kia pata wo touba karchuke hon ??? yani ye Allah aur unke bech ka mamla, hum kon ?

Khair asal chez ye hia k jin jin logo ne Pakistan bananay main hissa lia wo sab ek baat pe muttafiq thay aur wo hai Pakistan ki bunyaad La ilaha Illallah....tou is baat pe baki tamam objections apni hesiyat kho dete hian.....

aur dosri asal baat ye hai k Allah Pak ne jo kaam Jinnah sb se lia hai, beshak Allah Pak apne naik bandon se hi is tarha k kaam leta hia.....

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