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Males or female molestation mein kia farq hai yani kin kin tariqon se molestation ki jati hai?

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aiki Group: Members  Joined: 03rd Apr, 2009  Topic: 8  Post: 53  Age:  25  
Posted on:6th Jan 2017, 10:08am
 

Males or female molestation mein kia farq hai yani kin kin tariqon se molestation ki jati hai?

Amoman hum news ya degar zaraiye se rape k baray khabrain suntey rehtey hain. Agar ye rape ka shikar koi female ho to zehan na chahtey huey bhi vaginal penetration ki tarf jata hai magar in opposite case jab male rape ka shikar ho to kuch ajeeb bhi lagta hai. Mein is sorat-e-hal ko questions mein wazeh karney ki koshish karta hon…

 

1.       Agr eik aurat rape ka shikar hoti hai to kia vaginal penetration k ilawa bhi rape ki koi surat ho sakti hai?

2.       Agar koi mard rape ka shikar ho to is rape ki sorat-e-hal ya kefiat kia ho sakti hai?

3.       Agar rape karney wala male ho aur rape victim bhi eik male ho to ye kasy mumkin hai (I mean to say k is tara rape kasy mumkin hai)?

4.       Agar rape karney wali female ho aur rape victim male to ye sorat-e-hal kasy mumkin hai?

5.       Likewise agar rape karney wali female ho aur victim bhi female to yeh sorat-e-hal bhi kaey mumkin hai?

6.       In any case Gang rape ki term kb use ki jati hai?

7.       Rape victims agr male ho to us pe kis kism k physical aur psychological affect ho saktey hain?

8.       Aur agar female ho to kia sorat-e-hal ho sakti hai?

9.       Hmarey masharey mein mardon ko mahavratan ‘’nahaya dhoya ghora” bhi kaha jata hai yani agar wo kisi bad faili ka irtakab bhi ker lain to duniya us ki utni parwa nai karti jitni aurat k havaley se karti ha…Kia ye bat darust hai? If yes why?

10.   Molestation aur rape mein kia bunyadi farq hai?

11.   Males or female molestation mein kia farq hai yani kin kin tariqon se molestation ki jati hai? Ye sawal kai pehlo’on se bohat hi eham hai kyon aksar college age k students aur teenagers ko is ka sahi tor pe ilam hi nai hota aur wo is bad faili ka shikar hotey rehtey hain. mein members k jawabat k bad is pe mazeed detail se bat karney ka irada rakhta hon…

12.   Molestation or bad faili se bachao k liye kia ehtiati tadabeer ikthtiar ki ja sakti hain for both males and females?

13.   Kia molestation aur rape ki terms between married couples use ki ja sakti hai?

14.   Kia married couples mein either male or female partner kisi dosrey pe zabardasti karey to kia ye bhi rape kehlaye ga? If no why?

Hopefully senior members will reply in detail...


Activist Group: Members  Joined: 04th Feb, 2012  Topic: 12  Post: 370  Age:  27  
Posted on:15th Jan 2017, 10:05am
 

in my view

apne aik hi post me bht se sawalat poch liye hain. ye sb alag alag sawal ho skte hain.q k ye sb hmare mashray k bht ehem masaail hain or masaail bhi wo jin k baray me baat nai ki jati naa baat krne ko pasnd kia jata hai.

rape kisi bhi sakhs ki ijazat k bghhair us k jism me sexual penetration ka naam hai. is me amoman force lgai jati hai, abuse kia jata hai or victim ki ijazat k bghair zabardasti kiya jata hai.

this is definition of rape on Wikipedia

Rape is a type of sexual assault usually involving sexual intercourse or other forms of sexual penetration perpetrated against a person without that person's consent. The act may be carried out by physical force, coercion, abuse of authority or against a person who is incapable of giving valid consent, such as one who is unconscious, incapacitated, has an intellectual disability or is below the legal age of consent. The term rape is sometimes used interchangeably with the term sexual assault.

Ab aa jate hain molestation pe.

Aik definition k mutabiq molestation ye hai

the crime of sexual acts with children up to the age of 18, including touching of private parts, exposure of genitalia, taking of pornographic pictures, rape, inducement of sexual acts with the molester or with other children, and variations of these acts by pedophiles. Molestation also applies to incest by a relative with a minor family member, and any unwanted sexual acts with adults short of rape.

Ab ap dono me faraq kr skte hain.

Ab me apni observation kmutabiq ap k sawalaat k jawab de rhi hu. Ap in se disagree kr skte hain.

1. Agr eik aurat rape ka shikar hoti hai to kia vaginal penetration k ilawa bhi rape ki koi surat ho sakti hai?

rape ka mtlb victim ki marzi k khilaf us k abuse klye ya maza chhakhanay k lye sexual penetration krna. Ye penetration vaginal b ho skti hai or anal bhi.mere khyal me to oral bhi rape k zumray em ani chahye. Per shayed oral rape me na use ki jati ho q k us surat me victim apne daanto ka khob istemal kr skti hai.

2. Agar koi mard rape ka shikar ho to is rape ki sorat-e-hal ya kefiat kia ho sakti hai?

Anal sex

3. Agar rape karney wala male ho aur rape victim bhi eik male ho to ye kasy mumkin hai (I mean to say k is tara rape kasy mumkin hai)?

Mumkin hai. Anal rape ho skta hai.

4. Agar rape karney wali female ho aur rape victim male to ye sorat-e-hal kasy mumkin hai?

Mjhy is ka koi idea nahi. Lekin ho skta hai is surat me aorta bht powerful ho. Status me. or wo by force larkay ko force kre is sb k lye.

5. Likewise agar rape karney wali female ho aur victim bhi female to yeh sorat-e-hal bhi kaey mumkin hai?

Well mera nai khyal k ye mumkin hain. Aorta aorta k sath kuch kre to victim usay rok skti hai, aik aorta ko roknaa asaan hta hai.han agr wo aorta influential ho or victim k kuch secrets us k pas ho to wo usay blackmail kr k kuch b kr skti hai. Jis me foreplay hos kta hai.. sex toys use kiye ja skte hain. Ya fingering wghera.

6. In any case Gang rape ki term kb use ki jati hai?

Gang rape you must know. Jb aik se ziada log mil kar aik victim k sath rape krte hain. Ye to amoman panchayato k faislo me b nazar ata hai. Mukhtaran mai case dekh le.

7. Rape victims agr male ho to us pe kis kism k physical aur psychological affect ho saktey hain? 8. Aur agar female ho to kia sorat-e-hal ho sakti hai?

I think ye jo psychological effects hai wo kaafi had tk same ho skte hain. Confidence na rhna, apnea p ko blame krna, isolate hna, apnea p ko bura smjhna, burai me par janaa.

9. Hmarey masharey mein mardon ko mahavratan ‘’nahaya dhoya ghora” bhi kaha jata hai yani agar wo kisi bad faili ka irtakab bhi ker lain to duniya us ki utni parwa nai karti jitni aurat k havaley se karti ha…Kia ye bat darust hai? If yes why?

Ye bat had darja darust hai. Mard ko aise hi pak saaf smjha jata hai. Aorta ko shadi ki raat bhi shak k sath dekha jata hai. Blood nikle to shohar tasali rkhta hai wrna shak me hi rhta hai. Or mard ka chahay affair ho ya zina ho usay aj kal itni ehmiyat nai di jati. Jo k ghalat hai. Bcha hai, na smjh hai. Yye kah kr jan chura lete hain. Mard dosri shadi kre to fakhar kiaa jata hai k koi nai jawan bndaa hai. Jawani se muraad us ka penis hai. Hmare mashray me mardo pe fakahr krne kk lye aik hi wja kafi hai or wo hai un ka penis.

10. Molestation aur rape mein kia bunyadi farq hai?

ye shuru me definitions me btaya ja chukka hai. Ap dekh skte hain

11. Males or female molestation mein kia farq hai yani kin kin tariqon se molestation ki jati hai? Ye sawal kai pehlo’on se bohat hi eham hai kyon aksar college age k students aur teenagers ko is ka sahi tor pe ilam hi nai hota aur wo is bad faili ka shikar hotey rehtey hain. mein members k jawabat k bad is pe mazeed detail se bat karney ka irada rakhta hon…

Ye bht ehem sawal hai. Hmare han aksar molestation ya harassment ko crime smjha hi nahi jata. Larkiyo ko pas se guzarte hwe cher dete hain jo k larkiyaa apna hi kasoor smjhti hain. Pas se guzarte hwe mashAllah, subhanAllah, sexy, ya body parts k slang word khnaa bht aam hai. Larkiyaa chup rhti hain kuch nai khti. Kh b kya skti hain.

Isi trha aise hta hai k pas se guzarte hwe hip pe ungle pher jaye gi. Ya peechay se atay hwe larki k hip me ungli dalne ki koshish kre gy. Larki k pas se guzarte hwe apne bazu phela lena k wo bazu us k boobs ko maslatay hwe lgay. Ya aksar manchalay jo bike ya cycle pe ho pass se guzartay hwe aik db seenay pe hath martay hain. Dabatay hain or nikal jate hain. Ye sb bt aam hai.

Mere sath to aik bar aise bhi hwa k me bus ko apne stop se lene ki bijayee aik stop aga se leti thi k chalo aik stop ki walk ho jaye gi. Teen din me lag pta gya k bhai Pakistan hai. Yaha ye nai ho skta. Me nikalti thi, handsfree lga leti thi. Or jaha ziada log the waha chalti thi ta k sunsaan rasta dekh k koi chere naa. Mene ghor kiaa k hr do minute baad aik admi agay aa k bike rok k khara ho jata hai or phone kaan se lgaye baaat kr rha hta hai. Mere kaano me hands free hti thi awaz pta nahi lgti thi. Jb wo admi mene 5,6 baar dekha to mjhy shak hwa k ye mere peechay lga hwa hai. Mene music ki awaz kam ki or sunne ki koshish ki k wo kya kh rha hai to yakeen manay mere hosh ur gayee. Wo slang language use kr rha thaa. Ph kaan se lgaayee. K uff tmhara jism to aisa hai. Me ab jism k parts k slang words nai likh rhi. Q k forum policy nai hai, wo sb naam le rha tha k dil kr rha hai me tmhare sath sex kru. You can replace all dictionary words with slang ones. Us k baad mene aise road pe jana chor dia.

Amoman larkiya is ko apna kasoor smjhti hain. Kuch hmari mazhhabi values ki b wja se. k oho us ne mjy aisa kaha qk mene burqa nai pehna thaa.

12. Molestation or bad faili se bachao k liye kia ehtiati tadabeer ikthtiar ki ja sakti hain for both males and females?

Mera to khyal hai insaani nasal bs khtm ho jani chahye. Qayamat aa jani chahye. Bht ho gai dunyaa. Is k ilawa koi hal nai is cheez ka

13. Kia molestation aur rape ki terms between married couples use ki ja sakti hai? And 14. Kia married couples mein either male or female partner kisi dosrey pe zabardasti karey to kia ye bhi rape kehlaye ga? If no why?

Obviously use ki ja skti hain or ye bakaida use hoti hain. Hmare han marital rape ko itni ehmiyat nai di jati. Lekin ye ghalat hai. Hmare han aorta shadi k abd khud ko mard ka sex slave smjh elti hain. Farishtay laanat krte hain raat bhar. Ye soch k hr zulm sehti hain. Or wo khain bhi kisay. Jisay kahaingi wo kahay ga k tmhara shohar hai jo marzi kre.

Hmare han mard hazrat ko shuru se ye training di jati hai k tm mard ho, tmhare pas penis hai, taqat hai, tm kuch b kr skte ho, is ki misaal ap har jaga dekh sktehain. Social media pe koi larki kisi k khilaf bol de. Pehe admi arguments de gyy jb wo khtm ho jaye gy tb kahay gy ao zara tmhe me apne penis ka maza chakhata hu.

Ap offices me dekh le waha b ye haal hai. Shadi me b aisa hta hai. Bivi ko maza chakhanay k lye ya kisi baat per saza dene k lye rape kia jata hai. Sex is a very sensitive thing. Ye kese ki jati hai us se matlb badal jata hai. Koi banda sex kr k ap ko izat de skta hai. Yaha banday se muraad shohar hai. Sex k doraan ap ka dhyaan rkhe. Poray amal me apni hawas ya zarorat zahir krne ki bjaye ye zahir kre k usay is haal me b ap ki aprwa hai. Ap ko dard to nai ho rha, ap ko ajeeb to nail g rha. Koi cheez jo ap ko buri lg rhi ho.

Jb k rape ki surat me pehle talkh kalami phir us ko marnaa phir apni shalwar utarna, us ki utarna or zabardasti penetration krna. Ye rape hwa. Ab wo ja k kisay btyae. Married log is pe ziada roshni dal skte hain lekin kon married kahay ga k han mene apni bivi ka rape kia hai yak on aorta kahay gi k mere huby ne mera rape kia hai? No one.

bushra2012 Group: Members  Joined: 15th Oct, 2013  Topic: 1  Post: 1663  Age:  80  
Posted on:16th Jan 2017, 12:31pm
 

username aiki - questions about rape or molestation

Activist ne aapko achay aur comprehensize jawabaat de diay hain. Kuch baton ki wazahat zaruri hai:

1. Rape and violence: Zaruri nahen ke rape violent ho. Kisi ko daboch kar uski shalwar aur panties phaaR daali jaen aur vaginal penetration ki jae, tab to rape hai he hai. Iske ilawa, rape ka matlab hota hai, "marzi ke khilaf razamand hona". Maslan kuch offices mein, females job kar rahi hoti hain.

Unhein kaha jata hai,
jinsi fawaid faraham karo,
warna kisi tarah ka nuqsaan ho sakta hai,
maslan salary stop ho sakti hai, increment naheen lage ga,
special assignments nahen milenge (har job mein kuch routine work hota hai, aur kuch special assignments, special assignments ki wajah se taraqqi hoti hai, routine work ki wajah se hoti hui taraqqi bhi ruk jati hai, ummeed hai samajhte honge),
kai jagahon pe job hasil karne kelye bhi sex karwana parta hai, bajae job performance ke, sex performance ki bunyad pe job de di jati hai, aam taur pe aisi company ziada arsa chal bhi nahen pati, kyunkeh iss tarah na-ahl afraad ki he selection hoti hai.

Iss tarah ki job situation main, aisa nahen hota ke kisi female ko saRak pe he lita dia, balkeh iss tarah ke halaat bana dye jatay hein ke woh sex karne pe maboor ho jae. Uskay baad sex hota normal type ka hai.

Asal chakkar hai difference of power ka, isko doosray andaaz mein majboori ka istehsaal bhi kaha ja sakta hai.

Kai males ko bhi male bosses ya female bosses ki janib se sexual coercion ka samna karna parta hai. Kuch males ki kahanian bhi samne aain jin main unki female boss ne unse sex karwaya, warna unn (males) ki taraqqi ruk jati. Kuch males ne aisi harkaton ko bardaasht na kartay huay job chor di.

Conclusion: Rape ka violent hona zaruri nahen.

2. Female ki janib se male ka rape: Hairat ki baat hai ke NCF pe aisa sawal poocha ja raha hai, jabke yahan majority participants muslim hain aur Yusuf AS ka waqea Quran mein mojud hai. Kia aap loagon ko Yusuf AS ka waqea nahen malum? Kyunkeh difference of power thaa, badshah ki biwi ne unn par rape attempt ki. Pehle usne seducation ki koshish ki, nakaam hui, Yusuf AS raazi he na huay, phir usne coercion ki koshish ki, kyunkeh difference of power jo thaa, na maante, to dunyawi nuqsaan ka darr thaa. Phir zulekha ne unpe baqaeda jinsi hamla kia, usmain bhi nakaam hui to ghussa mein aa kar unhain jail mein band karwa dia aur yun unki poori jawani jail main satyanaas hogai.

3. Male ki janib se male ka rape: aik male doosray male ko anally penetrate kar sakta hai. Isi tarah kuch males penetrate karnay ke nahen, penetrate karwanay ko prefer kartay hain, woh bhi job situation, ya kisi doosri situation mein social status ke difference ka faida utha kar kisi ko majboor karna ke woh anally penetrate karay.

4. Marital rape: Yeh aik subjective topic hai. NCF pe bhi marital rape se mutalliq topics banay hain. Iskay ilawa chand desi blogs jo Pakistan se talluq rakhtay hain, unpe marital rape ke mutalliq surveys huay hain. Marital rape ko define karna mushkil to nahen, lekin marital rape ko court of law main lana aur sabit karna az-hadd mushkil hai.
Sharai taur pe, biwi ke saath zabardasti nahen ki ja sakti, jesa ke hadees se pata chala, ke jo shohar biwi ke sex se mana karnay ki wajah se ghussay mein bistar pe chala gya, uski biwi pe tamam makhlooq raat bhar laanat bhejay gi.

Yaqeenan iss hadees ki tashreeh yehi nikalti hai ke shohar ne biwi ke mana karnay ke baad gham-o-ghussa mehsus kia. Agar woh biwi ke mana karnay ke bawajud bhi sex kar dalay, to phir tamam makhlooq ke laanat bhejnay ka jawaz khatam ho jayga kyunkeh hadees ki condition yeh bhi hai ke woh sex na milne ki wajah se ghum-o-ghussa ka shikaar ho kar akela he bistar pe chala jae. Albatta doosri janib bibion ko naseehat ki gai hai ke chahay handi jal jae shohar ki zaroorat zarur poori karo.

Biwion kelye bhi ismain yehi hikmat hai ke na chahtay huay bhi kar dain warna shohar kaheen aur jaega aur phir muashray mein kuch aur bigaaR paida hoga.

Albatta meri observation rahi hai ke aksar khawateen iss hadees ko ignore karti hain aur shohar ko sex ke lye tarsa/tarpa kar khush hoti hain. Jawaban kuch shohar to NCF pe aa kar topic bana detay hain baaqi shohar biwi ke saath zabardasti kar ke usko uski "auqaat" yaad dila detay hain (whatever that may mean, it is quoted by me that is why it is in quotation marks).

5. Molestation: Jesa ke ooper bataya gya hai ke rape ka violent hona koi zruri nahen. Isi tarah kai bachon ya bachion ke saath jo sex kia jata hai, usmain bachay/bachi ki mukammal marzi hasil ki jati hai. Jiska tareeqa yeh hota hai ke usko toffee ya kisi aur cheez ka lalach dya jata hai ya phir uskay fitri tajassus ko misuse kia jata hai aur phir uska saath sexual acts kiye jatay hain jismein penetrative acts bhi shamil ho sakte hain.
Yeh wajah he ke rape aur sexual molestation ki defination distinct ki gai hai.
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