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Qabar And Azab-e-Qabar

Religion and Culture   >>   Aqeeda and Belief
 
 
 
 
ding420 Group: Members  Joined: 30th Nov, 2007  Topic: 3  Post: 39  Age:  48  
Posted on:17th Jul 2008, 5:17pm
 

Qabar And Azab-e-Qabar

Salam to everybody.,

i want to know your opinion about QABAR & AZAB-e-QABAR,

do u think this grave is the actual QABAR, if yes, than how many of the people burried........a big poplulation in this world burnt there dead bodies...what about them....do they had no Questions & Answers........do u see the hadith about the Mairaj, where did he saw the peoples were punished.

Even too many of the Muslims won't got this Qabar, so what about them

 




System Group: Members  Joined: 03rd Jun, 2008  Topic: 40  Post: 2285  Age:  33  
Posted on:17th Jul 2008, 8:24pm
 

Qabar K Azab

Mir ding

Asslam o alekum

Looks like you been away from an Islamic envoirment. Religon is a faith and you can not ask questions over faith. Hazrat Abu Bakar was the first person to aknowledge and beleive the Mairaj. We all sould beleive like Hazrat abu bakar Saddiq (Rizziallah ho Unho).

Its true that some people dont get burried in Qabar due to Incident or situation. Some time Air plain blow up and bodies are burned   But that does not mean those people would not be ask questions. Its something we dont have access.  I think the people who get the grave are lucky.

Wallah ho talah Alam

May God forgive us

sweetie Group: Members  Joined: 13th Jun, 2008  Topic: 11  Post: 509  Age:  33  
Posted on:18th Jul 2008, 12:33am
 

qabar ke azab

ding420,
qabar ke azab se murad meri understanding main jismani nahi hai. balkeh ye insan ki maot ke foran bad ke halat ki taraf nishandahi hai. kion keh jab mot waqe ho jaay to rooh to jism se nikal jati hai,

pher jism ki takleef rooh ko nahi pohnch sakti aor azab aor jaza saza ka talluq rooh se hai. yahi baat ap ki daleel se bhi wazeh hai keh beshumar log aisay bhi hotay hain jinhain ye zahiri qabar to naseeb bhi nahi hoti.

system: Hazrat abu Bakar (ra) ka eeman beshak qabil e taqleed hai, laikin un ka eeman bhi ala wajhil baseerat tha aor andha eeman nahi tha. Khuda ne aqal bhi istemal karnay ke liay di hai aor isay istemal karnay ka hukm bhi farmaya hai.

is liay jab koi sawal uthay eeman ke barah main bhi to us ka jwab zaroor talash karna chahiay.

aor aik baat zehn nasheen rakhni chahiay keh Allah ke qawaneen main koi tazaad nahi. agar tazaad nazar aay ga to wo hamari samjh ka qasoor hoga, ALLAH KE QAWANEEN MAIN KOOI TAZAD NAHI! 

is liay ye mumkin hi nahi ke deen main khuda ne kuch aor sikhaya ho aor dunya main kuch aor sabit ho raha ho, kaainat bhi usi ne peda ki aor deen bhi usi ne sikhaya. is liay agar tazad samjh kar science se ankhain band kar li jaain ke ye deen se match nahi karti,

ya scince walay deen se munkir ho jaain, to dono soorton main ye KHUDA tala ki paak zaat par hamla hai, Naoozubillah. May Allah guide us all, ameen.


System

Sweetie jee
dont like to argu.
If you can find the answer please let me know when Mr Ding is asking

where did he saw the peoples were punished.?

Wallah ho talah Alam

sweetie

main is sawal ka jwab janti bhi hon us se satisfied bhi hon aor de bhi sakti hon, laikin is forum pe is baray main discuss kia to moderators ko problem ho jaay gi.

ding420 Group: Members  Joined: 30th Nov, 2007  Topic: 3  Post: 39  Age:  48  
Posted on:18th Jul 2008, 4:50pm
 

Qabr ke azab

to all valued members
salam again,
i ntd the nice comnts,
I firmly beleive on the Hadith of Mairaj,
this dunyawi qabar is just to save human body from any disgrace,

as human became ASHRAF-UL-MAQLOOQAT, so ALLAH give us the sense to bury the dead bodies.

Actually to float this topic is that i observed in several mazars people go there & asked with this dead body, is this possible the person who is even not able to go to his grave himself, only buried with the help of atleast 4 peoples to carry him till the graveyard, how do he help the other ones or even hear what is going out of grave!!!!

ALLAH sura ABAS para 30 main farmata hay kay main tamam "INSANON" ko maut deta hoon aur QABAR deta hoon, to us say murad yey dunyawi QABAR nahee hay, kiun kay ALLAH kee baat ghalat ho hee nahee saktee hay. Mairaj may Nabee (SAW) nay logon ko azab hotay huay dekha wo sub aik burzaq (barrier) hay. Unhain Jannat main unka Muqaam bhee dikhaya gaya.

Ghair Allah say mangnay kee aik big wajhay Qabron main zinda manna bhee hay.

wtng for ur open comments.

seemi
yeh aik debatable topic hai.... is ka jawab wohi de sakta hai jis ne Quraan or Hadees ka bohat gehra mutalaa kiya ho or janta ho ke ALLAH or us ke pyaray NABI SAW ne is baray mein kya rahnumayi farmayi hai....  Ya is ka jawab woh de sakta hai jo is amal se guzar chuka ho..... Ab choonkay dosri option tu qabil e amal nahin lehaza kisi Alim e deen se hi is ka jawab mil sakta hai.......

Bewaqoof Group: Members  Joined: 19th Sep, 2010  Topic: 264  Post: 4456  Age:  39  
Posted on:20th Jul 2008, 7:26pm
 

Qabr K Azab se Non muslim ko kaise mutmain kare ge

System: aap ghair muslim ko kaise mutmain kare ge?
"
Religon is a faith and you can not ask questions over faith."

mai aap ki baat se agree nahi kerta. aap ko iss sawal ka jawab dena hoga. kio keh aap musalman ko tu keh sakte hai keh faith per ziadah sawal jawab nahi kare, lekin non-muslim ko kaise mutmain kare ge. agar aap daleel ki bajaye faith ki baat kare ge tu phir hindu, sikh aur doosre mazahib wale bhi yahi kahe ge keh on ke mazhab ko bhi aankhai band kar ke maan lo, koi daleel nahi maango.

jismani takaleef: jismani takaleef brain mai mahsoos hoti hai, agar brain ka sensory system kaam kerna chor de tu pain mahsoos nahi hota,

maslan faalij ka mareez jin ka jism soun ho jaata hai ose needle prick se bhi pain nahi hota. lehaza jab insaan ki death ho jaati hai, tu iss ka matlab hai keh brain ki death ho gayee, aur jab brain ki death ho jaaye tu phir body ki koi bhi takaleef mahsoos nahi hoti, chahe ose burn kia jaaye ya ose qabar mai dala jaaye.

baqi rahi rooh ko takleef hoti hai keh nahi os ki detail ke liye yaha click kare: Rooh Kia Hai



Mnadeem Group: Members  Joined: 01st Sep, 2007  Topic: 2  Post: 231  Age:   
Posted on:21st Jul 2008, 4:54am
 

AzabeQaber

" qabar ke azab se murad meri understanding main jismani nahi hai. balkeh ye insan ki maot ke foran bad ke halat ki taraf nishandahi hai. kion keh jab mot waqe ho jaay to rooh to jism se nikal jati hai, pher jism ki takleef rooh ko nahi pohnch sakti aor azab aor jaza saza ka talluq rooh se hai. "

100% agree with sweetie

 

 

System Group: Members  Joined: 03rd Jun, 2008  Topic: 40  Post: 2285  Age:  33  
Posted on:21st Jul 2008, 2:59pm
 

We should believe what our PBUH mentioned about

Sweetie and Bewaqoof
The reason I said that you cant ask questions over faith because Mr ding  is asking  when our Prophit Muhammad (Peace be upon him ) went on Mairag  he saw people are getting punished and reward. So how can you give a Daleel over this.

We should believe what our Prophet  Muhammad (Peace be upon him ) mentioned about.

Unless I undertood the question wrong

sweetie Group: Members  Joined: 13th Jun, 2008  Topic: 11  Post: 509  Age:  33  
Posted on:24th Jul 2008, 9:44pm
 

Qabor Ka Azab

system
pher ap batayiey keh Nabi kareem (SAWS) ko meraaj main jo log dikhaay gaay jinhain puishment ya reward mil raha tha, to kia un ke JISM qabron se nikaal kar asmaan ke kisi level pe pohncha diay gaay thay?

aor pher un ke jismon ne kesay travel kia, kia un ke jism dobara se zinda kar diay gaay thay??? nahi in sab baton ka jwab yahi hai ke mot ke bad ki jaza saza ka talluq rooh se hai, aor Pyaray Nabi Muhammad (S A w S) ko bhi un arwaah ki halat hi dikhaai gai.

ding420

  Nabi (SAW) ko jo loag dikhay gai thay wa dunyawee jismon main nahee thay,

dunyawee jism qiamat kay hee din dobara zinda kia jai ga, yani us may wo rooh jo burzaq main chalee gai hay lotai jai gee.

Hamaray yahan yey ghalat aqeeda (faith) bun gaya hay jis kee wajhay say qabar main puray huay murday say manga jata hay, woh jo mur gaya us ka dunya say talluq toot jata hay. chahaykoi, aam aadmi ho,shaheed ho,Aulia ho, ya NABEE ho.


Humaray pass unkee taleemat rehti hain jis hamain fiada phonchta hay.

goodman Group: Members  Joined: 11th Oct, 2007  Topic: 65  Post: 7710  Age:  33  
Posted on:25th Jul 2008, 11:05pm
 

ok ding bahi

 Hamaray yahan yey ghalat aqeeda (faith) bun gaya hay jis kee wajhay say qabar main puray huay murday say manga jata hay, ding bahi ma app kee itni batoo say too itfaq kerta hoo app bilkul correct ka rahay ha.

woh jo mur gaya us ka dunya say talluq toot jata hay. chahaykoi, aam aadmi ho, shaheed ho,Aulia ho, ya NABEE ho.

Maray bahi yaha AMWAT May faraq ha aik aam admi aur aik shaheed kee moot may faraq ha .Shaheed Hameesha Zenda rehta ha.

Aur Aulia ka mamla be bilkul different ha rahi baat Nabyoo kee woo sab say different ha .

Ap iss tara samj lay kay special loog ha aur inkee amwat kee catogires be different ha leekan ma app kee iss bat say itfaq kerta hoo kay HAM inkee taleemat say istafada ker saktay ha aur IZAAT ,ZELAT,REZAQ sab ALLAH kay hath may ha.

Bewaqoof Group: Members  Joined: 19th Sep, 2010  Topic: 264  Post: 4456  Age:  39  
Posted on:25th Jul 2008, 12:52pm
 

Scientifically marne ke baad kuch nahi hota

Azab-e-Qabar aik mazhabi aqeeda hai, aqeeda per bahas kerne ka koi faida nahi, aqeeda ko aankh band ker ke maan lena chahiye.

Scientifically marne ke baad jism ke saath kuch bhi kare jism ko koi takleef nahi hoti. jaha tak rooh ka taluq hai tu marne ke baad rooh jism se nikal jaati hai. lehaza qabar mai murda jism ke saath rooh nahi hoti. aur muda jism ke saath kuch bhi kia jaaye murda jism ko koi takleef nahi hogi.

goodman

jee  bawqoof ma app kee aik baat samj nahi saka jab app yeah batt kertay hoo kay hamar yeah mazhabi aqeeda ha aur ankh band kar kay maan lena chahaiya aur is per behas na keroo to maray bahi agar app iss cheez koo maan rahay too pher SCIENTIFICALLY ARGUEMENTS kee zarrorat nahi ha.Kyoo kay kuch cheezay DEEN KEEN app kay nazdeek mazhabi AQEEDAY kee ha aur door door tak SCIENCE say kooi talaq nahi.

Aik baat aur app ka yeah kehna Murday kuch nahi hota iss say joo marzay keroo iskoo takleef nahi hoti.Maray bahi ma pher app koo mazhab kee baat raha hoo ab app iss per science taraqay darfayat keroo too pher app koo bee pata chal jain ga kay murday too takleef hoti ha.aur MURDAY ka bee EHTRAM HA.

Ham loog aj kal zinda insan kee kadar nahi kertay too murday kee KHAK KERNI ha .Maray bahi ISLAM assay hee AFZAL Nahi ha iss may SCIENCE ,ECONOMIC,SOCIALOGY,BIOLOGY,PSCHOLGOY ETC SUB KUCH HA.

Aur pls ma app say request keroo ga kay her cheez koo SCIENCE Kee taraf mat KHANCHAY.Kyoo SCIENCE serif aik Knowledge ha ZABTA E EHLAQ Aur ZABTA E HAYAT Nahi ha.


System Group: Members  Joined: 03rd Jun, 2008  Topic: 40  Post: 2285  Age:  33  
Posted on:25th Jul 2008, 5:09pm
 

qabar k azab

Sweeti and Ding420

agreed with GoodMan

Aam Admi, Wali shaheed, Nabi  sub ke muamlat different hote hain.

 

Sweetie Jee App kia Dimagh or Ankhon se islam ko manti hain.  Asal main Insan ke sooch aur dimagh are limited by God..  Jab insane ka Dam nikal raha hot hai to us ko  sari zindagi ke amal Ankhon main dikhae jate hain   to kia us waqat insaan khara ho kar yeh sari zindagi ke amal kar rah hota hai.  Let me explain how brain works.  Computer is made like Human brain.  Jistarah computer main hard dr hote hai usi  trah  insani Brain main bhe hard dr hote hai.  Jistarah  app 10 saal pehle ke file ya movie app computer ke hard dr se access kar late hain   Wese hi Allah tallah has access to your brain and plays anything  anytime he wants. 

 

Mr Ding

When our Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him)  went on Mairag   He brought 50 namaz from allah  then Hazrat Mosa (Aleh Salam) met our Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him)  in the way and ask  50 namaz or too much for your ummat. They will not pray 50 times in a day.  Then our Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him)  went nine times back and forth to Allah tallah and Finally 5 prays left.  So my question to Sweeti and Ding  how Hazrat Mosa (Aleh Salam) became alive after thousands of years.

 

Marne ke bad insaan ke rooh nikal kar Asman ke taraf Urne lagte hai  and finally Aik rassi per lipat jate hai place in skies ..  Aur Gair Mazahib ke logon ke rooh Saat zamino ke neche dehkal de jati hai.

 

pinky7861 Group: Members  Joined: 06th Oct, 2007  Topic: 44  Post: 1348  Age:   
Posted on:25th Jul 2008, 5:55pm
 

FAZAL HAQ sahib ki kitaab 'ZINDGI',

    I think jin logoun ko mernay kay baad honay walay mamlaat ki samaj nahi aari aur wo rooh aur jism kay dermiyaan taluq honay aur na honay kay dermiyaan kahin confuse hain wo aik baar FAZAL HAQ sahib ki kitaab '''ZINDGI''''zaroor perhain.  Yah koi mazhabi kitab nahi lakin iss ko perhnay kay baad bohat si batain clear ho jati hain.   Zera mushkil urdu hay lakin aisi kitaab kahin aur perhnay ko nahi milay gi.  Give it a try

goodman
book
miss pinky je yeah book kaha say milli gee aur iss ke price kiya ha. 

seemi
Jee Pinky Baji, if you can provide us full details of the book, I will love to read this book....

Title:
Author:
Publisher:
Year of Publish:
ISBN:

goodman
Wasay miss semi jee Pinky baji kee lambi lambi post say aik yeah faida too howa kay app unoo JEE PINKY BAJI Kehna shooro ker diya ha.Wasay Miss sweet Pinky jee may be ASAR Ha.

pinky7861 Group: Members  Joined: 06th Oct, 2007  Topic: 44  Post: 1348  Age:   
Posted on:26th Jul 2008, 2:44am
 

FAZAL HAQ sahib ki kitaab 'ZINDGI',

Goodman and seemi
Mairay paas jo kitab hay yah bohat ziada purani hay, aur iss per koi ISBN # nahi hay.  waisay bhi Pak ki books main yah kam hi hota hay.  Baherhal pak kay kisi bhi book store say beri assani say mil jati hay, kayounkay last year main nay kisi kay liay hareedi theen.

Author: Ch Afzal Haq

Title: Zindagi

Iss ka aik chapter  '''Aik Punjabi Zameendaar Ki Kahani""  Urdu ki Punjab Text Book Board wali 8th, 9th, ya phir 10th class kay syllabus ka hisa raha hay.

ding420 Group: Members  Joined: 30th Nov, 2007  Topic: 3  Post: 39  Age:  48  
Posted on:26th Jul 2008, 5:53pm
 

Deen bohat asan hay

to all my beloved brothers & sisters

thanks to all of you to take interst in this topic.

please clear following things in ur minds.
actually we are so called SUNNI muslims, jo kay sun sun kur musalman huay hain kahi koi authentic baath nahee parhee na tehqeeq kee,

humari isee kamzoree ka in DEEN FAROSH MOTAY PAIT WALAY MOULVION nay faida uthaya, aur deen ko mushkil say mushkil banatay chalay gai.

Deen bohat asan hay, bus zara ghaur aur fikar kee zaroorat hay, muslun hum agar koi cheez khareednay bazar jatay hain to hum log kai dokanain dhoondnay kay baad usko khareedtay hai,

magar afsos deeni muamlaat main hum sirf moulvi kee kahee hui jhooti sachee baton per ankh bundh kur kay yaqeen kur latay hain.

I m not agree with goodman,
bhai "Kullo nafisin zaiqatulmaut" is main her nafs ka zikar aur koi nabee, walee, aam admi muslim ghair muslim kee koi difertiation nahee hay.
HER koi marnay kay baad 4 kundhon per rakh kur dufnaya jata hay, shaheed ALLAH kay pass zinda hain aur rizq patay hain, unhaon nay maut ka maza chukh lia hay,

ALLAH nay shuhada say poocha batao tumharee koi khawahish to unhon nay kaha hum doobara dunya may ja ker teri raah main shaheed hona chatay hain, magar ALLAH ka qanoon sub kay liay aik jaisa hay, aik maut kay baad qiamat tuk doosri zindagi nahee, aur ALLAH nay unko alla dargat dey kur jannat main rukha hua hay.,

 baqi aulia, nabee ho ya aam insan sub ka aik hee muamla hay. Sirf yey farq hay kay her NABEE seedha Jannat main jai ga. Moosa (AW) ko NABI (SAW) nay jannat main dekha aur mulaqat kee,

kisee bhee nabi ko apni ummat kay baray main khuch nahee maloom kay wo unkee taleemat main kia addition aur deletion kurtee rahy, yey baat ALLAH PAK qiamat kay din batain gay.

INSHALLAH juld hee chund aur ghaur talab mozoat pesh karoon ga, jaisay, teeja, duswan, challeesan, taweez gunday, wiladat-un-Nabi, deeni umoor per ujrat waghera. Tayar rahia ga.

Agar koi clrfctn chahiay to please free to write, hum sub talib-e-ilm hain.

 
Seemi
ding420 bhai baqi aulia, nabee ho ya aam insan sub ka aik hee muamla hay
Kya aap ke khayal mein Aik NABI ki value aik shaheed se kam hai?

ding bhai Kahan bhag gaye.. idhar aa ke jawab tu dein.. Kya (naoozbillah) aik NABI ki  auqaat shaheed se kam hoti hai? Jab ALLAH shaheed ke baray mein tu yeh kehta hai k inhein murda mat kaho, yeh zinda hein lekin tumhein us ka shaooor nahin.... Tu kya ALLAH ke Nabi or us ke pyaray banday aik shaheed se gaye guzray hien?

Kahan bhag gaye... Aap ne Dr Zakir Naik ki tarah taqreer tu kar di lekin aap ke pass ab explain karnay k liye jawab nahin hein.. yahan aa ker explain tu karein...


System
Seemi jee agar atni aqal in saheban ko hoti to kia yeah question pochte..
ding420 Group: Members  Joined: 30th Nov, 2007  Topic: 3  Post: 39  Age:  48  
Posted on:26th Jul 2008, 11:36pm
 

main kaheen nahi bhag raha, aur i wl satisfy you,

...edit.... website urls..  visit this link you may got the reply of your quetion,. please read these articles, if u have questions feel free to post ur reply, i will try to satisty you, but open the eyes, dont go with these mullas,

Note: Dont post URLs of external web sites.

System
Moderator
would you please give  Mr ding420 a warning due to talking about Religous firqas in Medical forums and Posting othe websits links.



goodman Group: Members  Joined: 11th Oct, 2007  Topic: 65  Post: 7710  Age:  33  
Posted on:27th Jul 2008, 6:33am
 

HAM TO NABI SAW KAY PAOO KEE KHAK BE NAHI

ding sahib ma app kee iss baat say bilkul itfaq kerta hoo kay her NAFAS nay moot ka zaiqa chukna ha usmay insan nahi bulkay hewan,prind chrind jiss may bee ROOH ha aur ZENDGI ha ALLAH nay uskoo MOOT bee dayni ha.

LEEKAN Batt pher wahi kee wahi ha app koo aur muj koo aur kissi tasray banday koo yeah RIGHT Hasil nahi kay ham NABI SAW Kay WASAL koo aik AMM ADMI kay WASAL say comparison karay.Ham too NABYOO KAY PAOO KEE KHAK BEE NAHI.App Allah say dua kay ALLAH app koo ROOZ QAYMAT NABI SAW KEE SAFIRSH SAY JANNAT may lay jain.Jiss DIN SAB RASOOL INKER DAY gay kay ham kuch nahi ker saktay  uss day HAMARAY PIYARAY NABI SAW AGAY BARAY GAY aur UNKEE SHAFIAT SAY HAM LOOGOO KAMYABI Milay gee.

Maray bahi ma mazeed kuch nahi kahoo agar app kay dil koo pher Tashengi na milli too pher post ker diyay ga aur app ka LINK too dekh nahi sakay app uskoo post ker day Shortly.

ding420 Group: Members  Joined: 30th Nov, 2007  Topic: 3  Post: 39  Age:  48  
Posted on:27th Jul 2008, 10:32am
 

if u dont read how can u get knowledge

i m really very sad to see that these links were deleted, if u dont read the fact how can u know what i want to told you,
I try my best to educate you, mera maqsad kisee kee dil azari nahee hay,
for GOODMAN,
maut ka maza her insan ko chukhna hay chaya wo nabee ho, wali ho musalaman ho ya ghair muslim.
Nabee aur shaheed apnay RAB kay pass ALA jannaton main zinda hain,

ALLAH HAFIZ,  forum per haqaiq ko chupaya jana bhee munafiqat hay.

NABI (SAW) ALLAH kay hukum say shaafat karain gay na kay apnee marzee say,
NABI her kaam ALLAH kee marzee aur ijazat say kartay hain.

goodman
Bahi Maray Allah nay bata diya ha Maray Piyaray Nabi ma tumay yeah EZAZ BEKHSHTA HOO Qayamat kay ROOZ TUMHARI SHAFAT Say loog Jannat may jain gay.Jab aik EZAZ Aik Honnour mill gain too pher us may HUKAM KASSA.

Aur maray bahi ab app ka rahay hoo SHAHEED AUR NABI ALA JANTON MAY ZENDA Ha.Maray bahi app koo iss batt ka kiss tara pata chala ha aur kiya app iss kee explaination kerna passend keray gay.

nikama
batoo yaraa tum kiss tarah pata chala...pls main nay bhe aisa buhat suna hai haik NABI PAAK ar SHUHDA KARAAM aapni apni qabroon main zinda hain aur un ko rizq bhee poucnchta hai ..pls zara explaoin kary any body
ding420 Group: Members  Joined: 30th Nov, 2007  Topic: 3  Post: 39  Age:  48  
Posted on:28th Jul 2008, 6:00am
 

Azab-e-Qabar

to all valued members i sent a link in my previous posts, but the moderator edited, so is there any mean i wl let u know about this website, so u can learn about the Qabar , Azab-e-Qabar, Nabi (SAW) Shaheeds  after passing this world, etc.
i m very upset when my post was edited.
 
 
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